Viper Discontinued

[Deggy]

http://jalopnik.com/354292/the-dodge-viper-is-dead-in-lieu-of-flowers-please-send-rd-funds

[Flicktitty]

thats ******* gay as aids! Vipers are SICK!

[Deggy]

Never been a fan of the Viper. I'm actually glad it's gone.

ZR1 > Viper

[Reverend Cooper]

oh well the camaro will be front wheel drive and hybrid,challenger will make it one or two years the vette will get detuned mark my words

[WickedSix]

my crystal ball says..... diesel supercars

[slickwilly]

my crystal ball says..... diesel supercars
Somewhere on another continent, Jeremy Clarkson is laughing maniacally at the US.

[Poncho]

I see Ceberus is already dismantling the company.

[70 cutlass 442]

what a crock of shit. i dislike mopar as much as most of us here, but id hands down roll a viper before a vette or stang any day.

[Flicktitty]

Somewhere on another continent, Jeremy Clarkson is laughing maniacally at the US.

LMAO! Sig worthy right there.

[88Nightmare]

http://jalopnik.com/354292/the-dodge-viper-is-dead-in-lieu-of-flowers-please-send-rd-funds

lol, after the mid to late 90's GTS, the car didnt even exist in my mind at all.








Is anyone going to miss it anyway? :rolf

[ND4SPD]

Thank all the fookin libs who ***** about so-called "global warming", whine about our dependance on mideast oil (yet won't let us drill in ANWAR or off the coasts).

Someday this whole climate change bs is going to go away and all we'll be left with is the negative economic impact of a poorly conceived theory and all the warming nuts will just go... "whoops, we were just trying to help."
:fire

By the way, you can say bye bye to the ZR-1 too... if you think that's going to make it past 2011 with any amount of horsepower... you're delusional. I mean, I know they 80s are coming back style-wise... I was just hoping that the no-horsepower autos of the 80s would stay buried.

[slickwilly]

Couple vids that can't be missed by Viper fans:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=jwgA9PzEO7s (Can't find the full version, but still good)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCHr436w1ww&NR=1

[DurtyKurty]

If you come, they will build it.

I remember a little story about a car that was slated to be canceled and be replaced by a car that is now canceled.... but the fans didn't let it happen.

Granted the Viper isn't the American Icon that the above car is, but it's a damn fine car that doesn't deserve to die.

Maybe some fans need to start writing letters.

[Deggy]

maybe they will replace it with this concept car.

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z6/deggyfresh/dodge-copperhead-concept.jpg

gross.....

[88Nightmare]

maybe they will replace it with this concept car.

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z6/deggyfresh/dodge-copperhead-concept.jpg

gross.....

wow, sweet lookin orange pile of barf on 4 wheels :rolleyes:

[Deggy]

wow, sweet lookin orange pile of barf on 4 wheels :rolleyes:

hahah i agree with you 100% on that one.

[1siksrt]

I love vipers and would roll in a twin turbo viper over any other car period

[Moparjim]

Never been a fan of the Viper. I'm actually glad it's gone.

ZR1 > Viper

After 25 years, theres finally a faster Vette - for a brief period of time. Congrats, GM lover. Call me when you actually have a ZR1, I'll race you for it. For now, go back to wishing your Grand Am "GT" was a ZR1 and get the hell out of the Mopar forum, theres real men conducting business in here.

[Moparjim]

I love vipers and would roll in a twin turbo viper over any other car period

I agree. I am unaware of another car that has run 7 second 1/4 mile times in truely a street car in FULL WEIGHT, full interior stock trim - factory suspension front and rear, all factory castings - block, heads, crank, factory drivetrain - T56 6 Speed, Dana 44, independant rear.

[Karps TA]

They aren't killing the Viper cause of Global Warming. they are killing it cause it's not profitable and they get very little out of the car for other cars. It offers Cerebus/Chrysler very little besides a flagship car. It shares very little with anything else they make. It's not like the ZR1 which shares a ton of parts with the low level Corvettes which sell pretty well, not too mention the same radio you get in nearly every GM vehicle, and a bunch of other stuff. It's hard to make a good business case to keep a car that sells a couple thousand units at best.

Cerebus didn't buy Chrysler to lose money on it every year.

[pOrk]

After 25 years, theres finally a faster Vette - for a brief period of time. Congrats, GM lover. Call me when you actually have a ZR1, I'll race you for it. For now, go back to wishing your Grand Am "GT" was a ZR1 and get the hell out of the Mopar forum, theres real men conducting business in here.

Get your panties in a bunch easy eh?

I don't like vipers either, you can make fun of my truck if you'd like :durr

[Cryptic]

Hi, my name is Andy, and I like Vipers

[Jsho13]

I am a fan of Vipers. Through highschool, always had one in the garage (dads). It was his dream car and had it up until last fall. He wanted something that wasn't such a raw sports car and could be used as a dd in the summer. I have driven it quite a bit and there is nothing like a viper. My favorite being the R/T10s first gen.

94 - bone stock - 19k miles
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y207/Jsho13/Cars/MyBirthdayWeekend001.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y207/Jsho13/Cars/MyBirthdayWeekend003.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y207/Jsho13/Cars/MyBirthdayWeekend009.jpg

I definitely miss this car

[Moparjim]

They aren't killing the Viper cause of Global Warming. they are killing it cause it's not profitable and they get very little out of the car for other cars. It offers Cerebus/Chrysler very little besides a flagship car. It shares very little with anything else they make. It's not like the ZR1 which shares a ton of parts with the low level Corvettes which sell pretty well, not too mention the same radio you get in nearly every GM vehicle, and a bunch of other stuff. It's hard to make a good business case to keep a car that sells a couple thousand units at best.

Cerebus didn't buy Chrysler to lose money on it every year.

True, but its hard to put numbers on its value as a halo car. Just about the only Chrysler you see in the media -Motor Trend, Car and Driver, on TV, featured in movies, on racetracks, you name it is the Viper. Its hard to put a price on that value unfortunately, and we are now owned by a buncha bean counters. What they should have done is what I thought was in the works last redesign. Rather than design the new V10 they should have just made the thing new Hemi based, possibly even LX platform based at least some of the parts. The new Hemi is more than capable of making enough power NA or they could have went with a power adder. That way at least the powertrain costs would have been way lower and the R&D investment for the powertrain much much lower.

[Deggy]

After 25 years, theres finally a faster Vette - for a brief period of time. Congrats, GM lover. Call me when you actually have a ZR1, I'll race you for it. For now, go back to wishing your Grand Am "GT" was a ZR1 and get the hell out of the Mopar forum, theres real men conducting business in here.

Oh trust me, I will go back to wishing my Grand Am GT was a ZR1. Way to get your panties in a f uckin bunch because the Viper is being smashed. I only posted this as an article to read...no need to get all defensive of your car...

[Karps TA]

Dodge has the Challenger as their "halo" car. That car is generating more excitement then the Viper has over the last 5-10 years. Cause #1 they nailed it, and #2 people can buy it. Plus since it shares components with other cars, they can go ahead an release some kick ass ridiculous versions of it that can be over the top. Or maybe release a Cuda or something based off it.

Business wise I think they can do more with the Challenger, then they really could with the Viper.

[Jsho13]

Dodge has the Challenger as their "halo" car. That car is generating more excitement then the Viper has over the last 5-10 years. Cause #1 they nailed it, and #2 people can buy it.


Yes people can afford it but it was the exclusiveness of owning a viper that made if a viper. The fact that you don't see them everyday puts the viper in a different league than a corvette or mustang. It will only be a matter of time before the Challenger becomes just like the mustang and charger - dime a dozen.

[Karps TA]

I don't know if I really think of a Viper as Exclusive. It's main competitor was the Corvette, which is not exclusive in the least. During the summer I see Vipers quite a bit.

Just not a good enough reason for a business to keep a product around.

Cool car though. I was a fan of them, more the earlier ones then the current.

[pOrk]

Whats a viper cost off the lot? Last time I checked the new vettes were fetching 70 grand?

[Prince Valiant]

Actually, the viper may not be dead...

The truth is, like many halo cars, the viper really isn't a money maker...Halo cars neither MAKE good money, but by the same token, the niether LOSE good money either. Canceling or delaying a replacement doesn't mean something dying nor that death is inevitable. Especially if you consider the ill-will it such as move would engender. Continueing the Viper not only allows you to keep the halo car (there really is no such thing as a "more affordable" halo car either as the article speculates) and the racing program with it's built in marketing.

By scratching a replacement, this isn't proof of demise...it simply means that for the time being, the current platform will continue for the foreseeable future; this while the resources that would be working on it's replacement are utilized for other means...which at this point, is extremely important for chrysler as it needs some serious re-focusing.

When the resources that were scheduled to be used on the viper originally become available again, a replacement may or may not be on again...it's simply not foreseeable at this time. A more likely scenario is that the current generation continues a little beyond the original 2011 date to possibly 2013-14 or so, at which time a replacement may occur...little point in killing it honestly.

[Moparjim]

Oh trust me, I will go back to wishing my Grand Am GT was a ZR1. Way to get your panties in a ****** bunch because the Viper is being smashed. I only posted this as an article to read...no need to get all defensive of your car...

My panties are far from in a bunch, I'm perfectly happy with my 1500 RWHP Viper. I much prefer the 96-02 GTS to the newer SRTs anyways. I just think your yet another of many ZR1 nutswinging douchebags that for some reason feels the need to chime in and shit on a Viper thread and bust out the OMGODZORS the ZR1 is better, when you don't even own either car - hence your opinion means jack shit.

[Deggy]

My panties are far from in a bunch, I'm perfectly happy with my 1500 RWHP Viper. I much prefer the 96-02 GTS to the newer SRTs anyways. I just think your yet another of many ZR1 nutswinging douchebags that for some reason feels the need to chime in and shit on a Viper thread and bust out the OMGODZORS the ZR1 is better, when you don't even own either car - hence your opinion means jack shit.

Actually I didn't chime in at all. I started the fvcking thread. All I said was in MY opinion I think the CORVETTE not just the ZR1 is better than any Viper ever built. Just because you own the car doesn't mean my opinion doesn't mean shit. Maybe to you it doesn't mean shit, but then again...who cares....Because to be honest I could give to shits what you think anyways. Go back to the Viper boards and bash on guys because they don't own a ******* Viper. Douchebag.

I really wish I never would of complimented you on the times you ran with your Viper.

[Nix]

^ I was just about to say didn't Deggy start the thread ion the first place? Its a Forum, people post what they want where they want.

Anywho I really like the earlier Vipers, I don't know too much about them but MoparJim yours sounds killer. Got any pics?

[Moparjim]

^ I was just about to say didn't Deggy start the thread ion the first place? Its a Forum, people post what they want where they want.

Anywho I really like the earlier Vipers, I don't know too much about them but MoparJim yours sounds killer. Got any pics?

I posted a thread in general, theres a few pics in there.

[Moparjim]

Actually I didn't chime in at all. I started the fvcking thread. All I said was in MY opinion I think the CORVETTE not just the ZR1 is better than any Viper ever built. Just because you own the car doesn't mean my opinion doesn't mean shit. Maybe to you it doesn't mean shit, but then again...who cares....Because to be honest I could give to shits what you think anyways. Go back to the Viper boards and bash on guys because they don't own a ******* Viper. Douchebag.

I really wish I never would of complimented you on the times you ran with your Viper.

You started the thread immediately followed by your commentary that you never liked the Viper, were glad it was gone, and ZR1 > Viper. I didn't bash on you because you don't own a Viper, I never bash on anyone's car of choice even with all the Mustang guys around here (you know who you are!). I bashed on the fact that you don't own EITHER car hence how the F would you know which is better or have anything to offer on the matter other than what you read in ZR1 nutswinger monthly or whatever. If you actually had a ZR1, I would be happy to intelligently discuss the merits of the Corvette ZR1 versus the Viper, since obviously both are excellent cars. However, I'm betting you have neither built, raced, or even driven either car what exactly is your opinion and Viper bashing based on?

P.S. If your going to E thug with me, at least come up with something new to call me rather than recycling the "douchebag" that I called you!

P.S.S. I joined BCM almost 3 years before you did, so I won't be "going back" anywhere.

[floaters]

My panties are far from in a bunch, I'm perfectly happy with my 1500 RWHP Viper. I much prefer the 96-02 GTS to the newer SRTs anyways. I just think your yet another of many ZR1 nutswinging douchebags that for some reason feels the need to chime in and shit on a Viper thread and bust out the OMGODZORS the ZR1 is better, when you don't even own either car - hence your opinion means jack shit.

i too like the 96-02 gts/ gts r vipers better than the new ones. but i also like the c5 cars better than the c6

and jim i think you should give me a ride in yours this summer. im only 5 mins away from you

[Breecher_7]

Whats a viper cost off the lot? Last time I checked the new vettes were fetching 70 grand?

70K for a fully loaded C6 Eric. You can get a C6 for under 50K very easily if you know how to deal.

70-80K is Z06 Territory.

I will miss the viper personally. Ive never owned one but ive rented one a few times while in hawaii when I was in the military. Very fun car. Not built for tall people though. If your over 6', you dont want one IMO. Im short though so I had no problems, one of my friends, not so much.

The ZR1 is going to be a beast, no doubt. The viper is Eye candy though, definitly catches more attention then the Vette. If i chose to own a ZR1 or a New Viper, I would sadly enough choose the Vette. I think it has more capability Dollar for Dollar, its a better "deal".

Does that "lifetime powertrain" warranty apply to the viper?

[Deggy]

Does that "lifetime powertrain" warranty apply to the viper?]

You're joking right?

[Breecher_7]

]

You're joking right?

No, im not. Last time I checked Dodge/Chrysler was offering a "lifetime Powertrain" warranty on all vehicles. Why would the viper be any different. The vette carries GM's 5/100K warranty.

[Deggy]

Look the next commercial you see for that warranty, read the small print on the bottom and see if it excludes Viper.

[ND4SPD]

70K for a fully loaded C6 Eric. You can get a C6 for under 50K very easily if you know how to deal.

70-80K is Z06 Territory.

I will miss the viper personally. Ive never owned one but ive rented one a few times while in hawaii when I was in the military. Very fun car. Not built for tall people though. If your over 6', you dont want one IMO.

Amen to that... I'm 6'3 and sat in one at the auto show a couple of years ago and didn't think I'd be able to get out. I'd have to see if one of the coupes with a seat loweing kit would be any better before I'd ever seriously consider one.

[Moparjim]

Diesels and SRT vehicles are excluded from the lifetime warranty.

[Deggy]

I'm sure the Z06 and ZR1 are excluded from Chevy's powertrain warranty. And does it really matter if the Viper/SRT vehicles even have a warranty? Most people void them right away with mods anyways.

[Breecher_7]

I'm sure the Z06 and ZR1 are excluded from Chevy's powertrain warranty. And does it really matter if the Viper/SRT vehicles even have a warranty? Most people void them right away with mods anyways.

The Z06 is not excluded from the warranty and im pretty sure the ZR1 wont be either.

[Moparjim]

The Diesels, SRT and Viper cars are not excluded from the regular 3 year/36,000 warranty or whatever it currently is, they are just excluded from the lifetime warranty.

[FourEyedFord]

I never bash on anyone's car of choice even with all the Mustang guys around here (you know who you are!).

Don't hold back! :D
You arn't still afraid of those mustang guys are you? :shades

[Moparjim]

Don't hold back! :D
You arn't still afraid of those mustang guys are you? :shades

Naw, never was! I've had nothing but good times with you guys, not to mention some of the best races... I'm the first to point out that most of the fastest cars around here the last few years have all been Mustangs, I still like to stir up some shit every now and then though and also point out that Mustangs seem kinda like assholes - everybody's got one! I often feel like I'm one of the very few Mopar lepers hanging around here.

[BOSS LX]

Naw, never was! I've had nothing but good times with you guys, not to mention some of the best races... I'm the first to point out that most of the fastest cars around here the last few years have all been Mustangs, I still like to stir up some shit every now and then though and also point out that Mustangs seem kinda like assholes - everybody's got one! I often feel like I'm one of the very few Mopar lepers hanging around here.

No roll racing with you this year!:thumbsup

[FourEyedFord]

I'm the first to point out that most of the fastest cars around here the last few years have all been Mustangs, I still like to stir up some shit every now and then though and also point out that Mustangs seem kinda like assholes - everybody's got one!

True, but the ones in question are very different from the rest, ain't they! ;)
I'm just giving you sh!t, I can't wait to line up next to that beast at the track.


No roll racing with you this year!:thumbsup

I will be up for roll races, my car may be a little sluggish out of the hole! :D

[Irish]

True, but the ones in question are very different from the rest, ain't they! ;)
I'm just giving you sh!t, I can't wait to line up next to that beast at the track.
I will be up for roll races, my car may be a little sluggish out of the hole! :D

Can you do a roll race at the track?:shades You know damn well there aren't
any single digit cars around here getting down on the street.

[FourEyedFord]

Can you do a roll race at the track?:shades You know damn well there aren't
any single digit cars around here getting down on the street.

It was more of a joke. :thumbsup

[TURTLE]

I often feel like I'm one of the very few Mopar lepers hanging around here.

+1 mopar junkie here... i just feel compelled to continue purchasing good 'ol ma mopar inventory here... just test drove a new SRT4 Caliber this weekend:wow

[T-Bag]

Hopefully this really isn't the end of the Viper. It may not be my top pick as far as high end performance cars go...but its still a very sick ride

[FASTZ2895]

what a crock of shit. i dislike mopar as much as most of us here, but id hands down roll a viper before a vette or stang any day.

That's why you drive a bunch of slow sh:t:rolf

[FASTZ2895]

The Z06 is not excluded from the warranty and im pretty sure the ZR1 wont be either.

Thank you----Chevy do and will back their powertrain

Not like Ford or Chrsyler

[Moparjim]

Thank you----Chevy do and will back their powertrain

Not like Ford or Chrsyler

Again, the Viper is not excluded from the normal warranty - 3 years/36,000 or whatever it currently is. It is just excluded from the latest "lifetime" warranty promotion Chrysler is running.

[team beater]

Back when i work for dodge city in 2002 vipers were at about 75 to 85, mind you this was 6 years, im sure that they are at about 90 with ease now. could be wrong though.

PS I am a vette owner and have driven multiple vipers, any way you look at they are both FUN. Also what other AMERICAN car competes with the vette????? Its a shame if the viper dies