WTF..a HIGH of 2` sunday?????

[Yooformula]

fuggin come on already...-9 for a low tomorrow night.:fire enough already.

[lordairgtar]

Yeah, I'm ready for some global warming.

[Cryptic]

Now I'm going to go back outside and finish shoveling all my global warming....

[Prince Valiant]

Is a new ice age on the way? Sun's diminishing activity concerns some scientist (http://ibdeditorial.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=287279412587175) A fun read...appearently these scientist haven't heard though...there is a "consensus" on glaobal warming :goof


Not every scientist is part of Al Gore's mythical "consensus." Scientists worried about a new ice age seek funding to better observe something bigger than your SUV — the sun.


Back in 1991, before Al Gore first shouted that the Earth was in the balance, the Danish Meteorological Institute released a study using data that went back centuries that showed that global temperatures closely tracked solar cycles.

To many, those data were convincing. Now, Canadian scientists are seeking additional funding for more and better "eyes" with which to observe our sun, which has a bigger impact on Earth's climate than all the tailpipes and smokestacks on our planet combined.

And they're worried about global cooling, not warming.

Kenneth Tapping, a solar researcher and project director for Canada's National Research Council, is among those looking at the sun for evidence of an increase in sunspot activity.

Solar activity fluctuates in an 11-year cycle. But so far in this cycle, the sun has been disturbingly quiet. The lack of increased activity could signal the beginning of what is known as a Maunder Minimum, an event which occurs every couple of centuries and can last as long as a century.

Such an event occurred in the 17th century. The observation of sunspots showed extraordinarily low levels of magnetism on the sun, with little or no 11-year cycle.

This solar hibernation corresponded with a period of bitter cold that began around 1650 and lasted, with intermittent spikes of warming, until 1715. Frigid winters and cold summers during that period led to massive crop failures, famine and death in Northern Europe.

Tapping reports no change in the sun's magnetic field so far this cycle and warns that if the sun remains quiet for another year or two, it may indicate a repeat of that period of drastic cooling of the Earth, bringing massive snowfall and severe weather to the Northern Hemisphere.

Tapping oversees the operation of a 60-year-old radio telescope that he calls a "stethoscope for the sun." But he and his colleagues need better equipment.

In Canada, where radio-telescopic monitoring of the sun has been conducted since the end of World War II, a new instrument, the next-generation solar flux monitor, could measure the sun's emissions more rapidly and accurately.

As we have noted many times, perhaps the biggest impact on the Earth's climate over time has been the sun.

For instance, researchers at the Max Planck Institute for Solar Research in Germany report the sun has been burning more brightly over the last 60 years, accounting for the 1 degree Celsius increase in Earth's temperature over the last 100 years.

R. Timothy Patterson, professor of geology and director of the Ottawa-Carleton Geoscience Center of Canada's Carleton University, says that "CO2 variations show little correlation with our planet's climate on long, medium and even short time scales."

Rather, he says, "I and the first-class scientists I work with are consistently finding excellent correlations between the regular fluctuations of the sun and earthly climate. This is not surprising. The sun and the stars are the ultimate source of energy on this planet."

Patterson, sharing Tapping's concern, says: "Solar scientists predict that, by 2020, the sun will be starting into its weakest Schwabe cycle of the past two centuries, likely leading to unusually cool conditions on Earth."

"Solar activity has overpowered any effect that CO2 has had before, and it most likely will again," Patterson says. "If we were to have even a medium-sized solar minimum, we could be looking at a lot more bad effects than 'global warming' would have had."

In 2005, Russian astronomer Khabibullo Abdusamatov made some waves — and not a few enemies in the global warming "community" — by predicting that the sun would reach a peak of activity about three years from now, to be accompanied by "dramatic changes" in temperatures.

A Hoover Institution Study a few years back examined historical data and came to a similar conclusion.

"The effects of solar activity and volcanoes are impossible to miss. Temperatures fluctuated exactly as expected, and the pattern was so clear that, statistically, the odds of the correlation existing by chance were one in 100," according to Hoover fellow Bruce Berkowitz.

The study says that "try as we might, we simply could not find any relationship between industrial activity, energy consumption and changes in global temperatures."

The study concludes that if you shut down all the world's power plants and factories, "there would not be much effect on temperatures."

But if the sun shuts down, we've got a problem. It is the sun, not the Earth, that's hanging in the balance.

[awsomeears]

And I'm on call............................

sonofabitch

[Deggy]

phuck winter

[GRAMPS SS]

well...i guess i have to go to the store and stock up on some suppies and then just sit in front of the fire place and listen to the wind howl out here in the country....this cold weather is ....:bsflag

[Al]

To think that I was driving with my windows down this afternoon. I thought I was getting used to wisconsin winters.

[93RedDevilZ28]

Oh piss on that. I need to go to Colorado so that when I want snow, I can just head into the mountains.

[Reverend Cooper]

this shit is great you pussies

[Yooformula]

phock this shit. i would rather be driving my car than freezing my ass off.

[GHOSST]

I miss home.. but I dont miss the snow.... the one good thing about NC, no snow.. we actually had a high of 80 on wednesday... And to think.. I'm visiting on the 27th... yay snow...:crying

[DirtyMax]

Ol Ma' Nature just said "Here have an inch of snow right before it goes down to 0 degrees"... Should make everything nice and crusty :flipoff2:

[lordairgtar]

we actually had a high of 80 on wednesday... And to think..
Yer not helping:D

[GHOSST]

Yer not helping:D

Hey it gets cold here.... low of 35....:thumbsup

[michelle]

Perfect weather for hot chocolate and those cute little marshmallows.

And cuddling up with the future-hubby on the couch.

[Teufelhunden]

I miss home.. but I dont miss the snow.... the one good thing about NC, no snow.. we actually had a high of 80 on wednesday... And to think.. I'm visiting on the 27th... yay snow...:cryingI know EXACTLY how you feel.

[badass88gt]

It's not that bad. It's only -8* right now in the middle of the afternoon.

[LIZMO]

i hate winter. i want it 2 be summer

[slickwilly]

My mom keeps trying to talk me out of buying a Mustang right now because it's "still winter." It needs to warm up, damnit!

[Lash]

I just had fun trying to clear the 4' of snow that drifted over my driveway. There was so much snow that my truck got stuck twice......too much snow for my plow to even push.



Apparently we're in for another 3-6" tomorrow too.

[slickwilly]

I haven't so much as looked outside, but weather.com said that it feels like -24. That was enough incentive for me to stay in my PJs.

[Cryptic]

4 inches of snow stopped your plow truck?

[GRAMPS SS]

3-6 more of this crap tomorrow...i hate the color white, and hearing ...doesn't it look sooo nice out , how it sticks to the trees and makes everything look pretty........screw that....we need to sacrifice a virgin fellas.....just kidding...i don't think there are any left...

[Lash]

4 inches of snow stopped your plow truck?


Reading>You :thumbsup

Read it again....
3-4' (' means feet..." mean inches) of snow.
:goof


I had HUGE drifts across my drive. My neighbor got stuck once or twice with his plow too....and his set-up is bigger and nicer than mine.

[slickwilly]

Why does it always have to snow a lot when I have to work? Never on a school day...

[slickwilly]

Reading>You :thumbsup


3-4' of snow.



:goof


I had HUGE drifts across my drive. My neighbor got stuck once or twice with his plow too....and his set-up is bigger and nicer than mine.

How do you get a plow stuck? And once you do, how do you get it unstuck?

[Lash]

How do you get a plow stuck?

It's possible.
My driveway is around 230' feet long...and it's a hill. It drops off on both sides too.:durr



How do you get it unstuck?

Skill....and a lot of swearing.




I have never been stuck in 4 wheel drive before.....but in the last week have been stuck 3 times in my own driveway because of the snow.

[hrsp]

yeah abit chilly today...worst winter i can remember....

[Reverend Cooper]

right now west bend is at -4 this shit sucks more snow is on the way yet too

[moels]

Al Gore can suck a fat baby's **** with his Global warming bullshit. This winter sucks balls.

[SlowStee]

I just want someone to specifically blame for all this Winter bs :chair:

[Cryptic]

Reading>You :thumbsup

ya got me...

well my truck wont even start... cranks fine... wont fire... sounds like my pump is frozen.
Looks like I just got own3d.

[Rocket Power]

I was trying to cook brats on my gas grill last night. That cold weather really messes with the propane. Had to have it on low otherwise I was like a blow torch, and even on low it was like it usually is on med-high. But I still got my brats:goof

[lordairgtar]

yeah abit chilly today...worst winter i can remember....
Man! These are just like the winters I remember when I was in grade school (1960-1968). You guys are just too damn young to remember any real winters. We went through a warming cycle, and now with the sun on a waning cycle, we will have cool seasons. The planet weather is affected by the sun, ocean currents, and under water volcanic action more than any other situation. Man cannot have any influence on climate whatsoever.

[Cryptic]

^1978 grandpa

[slickwilly]

Man! These are just like the winters I remember when I was in grade school (1960-1968). You guys are just too damn young to remember any real winters. We went through a warming cycle, and now with the sun on a waning cycle, we will have cool seasons. The planet weather is affected by the sun, ocean currents, and under water volcanic action more than any other situation. Man cannot have any influence on climate whatsoever.
Don't forget the earth's rotation around the sun. Sometimes it's round, sometimes it's oblong. ;)

The More You Know...

[Cryptic]

Don't forget the earth's rotation around the sun. Sometimes it's round, sometimes it's oblong. ;)

The More You Know...

for your information it's always elliptical. In fact we are closer to the sun in the winter than we are in the summer. It's the axis of the earth that determines how much direct rays from the sun we receive and that correlates to surface temperature. Thank you drive through.

[MT98Z]

right now west bend is at -4 this shit sucks more snow is on the way yet too

You'll be ok,Ron says man up :rolf

[MT98Z]

Man! These are just like the winters I remember when I was in grade school (1960-1968). You guys are just too damn young to remember any real winters. We went through a warming cycle, and now with the sun on a waning cycle, we will have cool seasons. The planet weather is affected by the sun, ocean currents, and under water volcanic action more than any other situation. Man cannot have any influence on climate whatsoever.

I remember some of the winters like 78-79 :headbang

[slickwilly]

for your information it's always elliptical. In fact we are closer to the sun in the winter than we are in the summer. It's the axis of the earth that determines how much direct rays from the sun we receive and that correlates to surface temperature. Thank you drive through.
Right, but the earth goes in loooooong cycles of orbits. It slowly (like, thousands of years slowly) shifts from being nearly circular to very drawn out.

At least, that's what I learned from this neat-o vide-o I watched in class the other day.

[Cryptic]

well in this millennium we are in an elliptical orbit ;)

[DirtyMax]

To make things worse, it's so damn cold that ice melt won't even work very well.

[slickwilly]

I got stuck in the parking lot at work this morning. :mad: It's all deep, entrenched ice, and I got hung up in a rut. :flipoff2: