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Flicktitty
01-28-2008, 01:57 PM
Not sure if anyone saw this but this is VERY impressive!

http://www.musclemustangfastfords.com/features/mmfp_0801_twin_turbo_compound_boost_2003_mustang_c obra/index.html

The kit featured here is universal and can be used with a supercharger or without it-the difference will be in the turbocharger sizing to fit different applications. The piping and turbo mounting is universal in all systems and mod-motor applications. For those brave enough and in need of the excess, check out the turbo/ supercharger system. It will not disappoint your appetite for ridiculous power levels. We watched this setup throw out a certifiably insane 1,188 rwhp and an even more impressive 1,015 rwtq-through a stock engine including the factory cast-iron exhaust manifolds.



http://images.musclemustangfastfords.com/features/mmfp_0801_02_z+twin_turbo_compound_boost_2003_must ang_cobra+engine_bay.jpg
http://images.musclemustangfastfords.com/features/mmfp_0801_28_z+twin_turbo_compound_boost_2003_must ang_cobra+methanol.jpg

Want_Notch
01-28-2008, 02:11 PM
That's cool but wouldn't the you be better off taking the "restriction" of the blower off?

That is impressive for an otherwise stock motor though.....

BAD LS1
01-28-2008, 03:00 PM
What makes it NOT impressive that it takes nearly 44 PSI to make this power! Yes 44 PSI!! i shit you not it says that in the article. They have seen as high as 65 psi with pulley swaps too.

Its a cool idea, but a supra can make as much power with the same boost and 2 less cyl.

juicedimpss
01-28-2008, 03:06 PM
damn near 1200 hp is impressive any way you look at it,especially with a "stock" engine.
that even eclipses the almighty LSx engines..
:D

BAD LS1
01-28-2008, 03:12 PM
damn near 1200 hp is impressive any way you look at it,especially with a "stock" engine.
that even eclipses the almighty LSx engines..
:D

heh understood, that kinda power is impressive yes. There are many ways to skin the cat i know...

This not a LSx debate either.

But if the thing so much as farts , it will be raining bits of 4 cammer motor in australia. 44 psi into a factory stock engine is not just a ticking time bomb, but a certain cataclysim.

juicedimpss
01-28-2008, 03:14 PM
thinking about it even more,thats one hell of a job tuning that thing,expecially at those kinds of boost pressures.
a stock lower will not put up with much deto at the level those cylinder pressures are seeing.
i wonder what the intake air temps get to??

BAD LS1
01-28-2008, 03:18 PM
thinking about it even more,thats one hell of a job tuning that thing,expecially at those kinds of boost pressures.
a stock lower will not put up with much deto at the level those cylinder pressures are seeing.
i wonder what the intake air temps get to??

its says like 120ish in the article. its not rocket science, throw a shit ton of fuel at it ( 160 lb L.I. injecors, weldon FP, 1/2 feed lines) and keep the timing reasonable and it will work. They are just using that PMS piggy back thing and a modified MAF for tuning. No **** ups with this baby. A little more than a clipped plug will result on that go around lol

Windsors 03 Cobra
01-28-2008, 03:19 PM
Its 1188 hp on a stock bottom engine none the less, I believe the valve covers have not been off.

Obviously it wont hold up since with that amount of boost it needs head studs, mls hg's and new slugs. Its not like we all haven't seen engine with the best of everything puke at a very young age from some stupid problem.
Beside people have been bolting whatever they can on some old V8 since the beginning of time and runin'er till she blows anyway.
Cant wait till those cars start hitting the streets and I think the reason the blower is still used is for the 600+ ft lbs off idle. :D

juicedimpss
01-28-2008, 03:24 PM
. its not rocket science, lol

tell me you are joking.


that is damn impressive any way you look at it.


if it was "EASY" every street car would have 1000+ hp.

Windsors 03 Cobra
01-28-2008, 03:25 PM
if it was "EASY" every street car would have 1000+ hp.


They don't ? :wow :rolf

Windsors 03 Cobra
01-28-2008, 03:26 PM
What I want to know is if you feed the blower with boost does the blower use less power ?

BAD LS1
01-28-2008, 03:30 PM
tell me you are joking.


that is damn impressive any way you look at it.


if it was "EASY" every street car would have 1000+ hp.

Well a BBC, with a metric shit ton of spray seems to make it happen quite easily dont it? I will give this credit that its a few notches above that.

Im just taken back by the amount of boost needed to make it happen is my stumbling block.

Its a cool idea indeed. Maybe im missing something on the true theory behind compound boosting too other than the instant low end and the top end legs togther.

juicedimpss
01-28-2008, 03:37 PM
Ill be the first to tell you this,there is NO WAY you are going to spray a "stock" bbc to 1000+ hp.it won't happen,period end of story.

think about this,not so much as a ported cylinder head or set of cams? come on now....thats crazy.

what is the power at the flywheel at 1188RWHP???
wow.

Flicktitty
01-28-2008, 03:46 PM
i just thought it was cool to see nearly 1200 RWHP on a "stock" motor sure most motors could with enough time and money but i doubt on a stock motor.

BAD LS1
01-28-2008, 03:47 PM
I didnt say anything about it being a factory stock BBC... Just generalize it.

HRSEPLA
01-28-2008, 03:53 PM
When I saw this article in the magazine, I thought it was definately wierd... I know with the right twins it will still make 1000+ without the blower... Interesting, but wierd...:)

Windsors 03 Cobra
01-28-2008, 04:05 PM
I have thought about making this the long term plan for my car, hopefully when it is 10 years old it will be sporting this set up and an automatic transmission.
I may leave the stock blower on until then. I think we might have it paid off in a year or 2 :rolleyes: then I will have a little more money to throw at it. :thumbsup
Hopefully I dont nick hogan it by then. :durr

By that time I wont be able to afford the petrol to drive it cross country so might as well make it unreliable.
I also wanna see how many miles I we can get on the stock junk as well.

lit666
01-28-2008, 04:24 PM
here's a dyno of it.

http://www.hellionpowersystems.com/Video/Hellion.DynoDay1.wmv

Cjburn
01-28-2008, 05:06 PM
Didn't they say in that article that if you removed the supercharger it would make more power?

Windsors 03 Cobra
01-28-2008, 05:10 PM
No it would not.

BOSS LX
01-28-2008, 06:55 PM
I agree with Tom on this one!

It sure is a badass 11.0 car though.:thumbsup

brewcity_mach1
01-28-2008, 08:50 PM
that's nuts!

Reverend Cooper
01-28-2008, 08:54 PM
well i would rather just have a twin turno cobra take off the blower they make over 1000 rwhp all day

WilliamZ
01-28-2008, 10:03 PM
I would also rather have just a TT kit on a Cobra.

GTSLOW
01-28-2008, 10:20 PM
I would also rather have just a TT kit on a Cobra.

x5

Jeff
01-28-2008, 11:49 PM
Didn't they say in that article that if you removed the supercharger it would make more power?


No it would not.

"Simply removing the supercharger and adding a '99 Cobra intake will increase peak horsepower, but low-end power would be sacrificed. The reason behind the madness, though, was to create a combination that provides superior low-end and average horsepower."

HY35F2T
01-28-2008, 11:49 PM
its says like 120ish in the article. its not rocket science, throw a shit ton of fuel at it ( 160 lb L.I. injecors, weldon FP, 1/2 feed lines) and keep the timing reasonable and it will work. They are just using that PMS piggy back thing and a modified MAF for tuning. No **** ups with this baby. A little more than a clipped plug will result on that go around lol

excatly thats why there running so much damn boost, less hp per lb of boost with the timming they take out to kep det away.

I didnt read the article but what octane they using?

Windsors 03 Cobra
01-29-2008, 10:04 AM
They used VP112.

juicedimpss
01-29-2008, 02:30 PM
They used VP112.

again impressive.
i would guess that car would be a good candidate for c-16 or vp import fuel.

Flight_740
01-29-2008, 07:22 PM
It's impressive but how many "near 1200 HP setups on a stock motor" dynos can be done before it pops?

lasttimearound
01-29-2008, 11:42 PM
i guess it depends, did big 3 do the tune?

OxmanWI
01-30-2008, 01:45 AM
On a stock motor? That iron block can hold up well over 1200hp, but the crank and rods I think are rated at 1000hp and 800hp. If that indeed is the stock motor you have to look at things like the stock timing components, oil pump gears, head gaskets and others. If I would have built the motor I would have done it the right way so you don’t have to worry about anything blowing up down the road.

Mr Twigbert
01-30-2008, 10:39 AM
It gets a 10 for coolness IMO..

slow_pony
01-30-2008, 02:53 PM
Nice car