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HY35F2T
01-15-2008, 02:57 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3U_GISl3aAA&feature=related

84hurst
01-15-2008, 03:07 PM
I think thats a bunch of bullshit. Conspiracy my ass!:fire:fire

HAMRHEAD
01-15-2008, 03:22 PM
What a bunch of horse $hit. Some people will believe anything. Whoever made that is in need of a good a$$ whooping.

UnderPSI
01-15-2008, 04:33 PM
I agree 100% I hate stupid crap like that.

HY35F2T
01-15-2008, 04:35 PM
i just dont get how come they got video of the planes hitting the twin towers but not the pentagon?

lasttimearound
01-15-2008, 04:49 PM
think how people are around nyc... now how many people are walking around by the pentagon? the chances are way more likely that someone will have a video camera on the streets of nyc, especially since nyc is a tourist spot, the pentagon really isnt.

HY35F2T
01-15-2008, 05:13 PM
think how people are around nyc... now how many people are walking around by the pentagon? the chances are way more likely that someone will have a video camera on the streets of nyc, especially since nyc is a tourist spot, the pentagon really isnt.

so why dosent the gov show there own video so ppl can stop saying its gov. inside job.

WickedSix
01-15-2008, 05:17 PM
so why dosent the gov show there own video so ppl can stop saying its gov. inside job.

baffling why the government wouldn't want to release video they 'might' have of a building that houses some highly secure operations :durr

and bush ate yer baby.....it just looked like a dingo.....he is shifty like that....

HY35F2T
01-15-2008, 05:32 PM
baffling why the government wouldn't want to release video they 'might' have of a building that houses some highly secure operations :durr

and bush ate yer baby.....it just looked like a dingo.....he is shifty like that....

so thats alot to expect?A video out side not inside by some "top secert" stuff outside of a plane thats it idk just funny how so many ppl blow it off as pffh aint shit its ok president wouldnt do that.

WickedSix
01-15-2008, 06:24 PM
umm government by the people for the people ...... frankly i don't want to know everything cus I really don't need to worry about everything.....

Yooformula
01-15-2008, 07:32 PM
I would rather think that they shot the other plane out of the sky to PREVENT another hit but the general public couldnt handle that fact so why bother releasing anything IF that were the case.

lasttimearound
01-15-2008, 07:35 PM
I would rather think that they shot the other plane out of the sky to PREVENT another hit but the general public couldnt handle that fact so why bother releasing anything IF that were the case.

i think most poeple, even the families of people on board would rather think that. the govt protecting people, its their job

HY35F2T
01-15-2008, 08:11 PM
just like all cops are good cops.

lasttimearound
01-15-2008, 08:15 PM
who the f*ck are you? no one here ever said all cops are good cops. never said everyone in the govt isnt corrupt. however the system of checks and balances and the high number of others that would need to be involved makes this highly unlikely.

HY35F2T
01-15-2008, 08:19 PM
who the f*ck are you? no one here ever said all cops are good cops. never said everyone in the govt isnt corrupt. however the system of checks and balances and the high number of others that would need to be involved makes this highly unlikely.

LMAO wow lil pissy?Guess im not allowed to speak my mind in this free country lol.:rolf:rolf

Waver
01-15-2008, 10:02 PM
O.k. you speak your mind....I will speak my mind...You are a simpleton....if you honestly believe that the us attacked its self, killed 3,000+ including fire, police and emergency personel then you are the biggest fool that ever walked the earth. Here are some more, the moon landing was staged and recorded in a hollywood studio, elvis is still alive, and there really is such a thing called men in black

Rocket Power
01-15-2008, 10:04 PM
Hmm looks like someone needs a new hat
http://usera.imagecave.com/vista461/tin-foil-hat.jpg

HY35F2T
01-15-2008, 10:33 PM
O.k. you speak your mind....I will speak my mind...You are a simpleton....if you honestly believe that the us attacked its self, killed 3,000+ including fire, police and emergency personel then you are the biggest fool that ever walked the earth. Here are some more, the moon landing was staged and recorded in a hollywood studio, elvis is still alive, and there really is such a thing called men in black

yeah vanilla thats excatly what i said i love how i say one thing and ppl blow it up.

example.

Dude did u just kick that cat .

this just in hy35f2t a pita member loves animals has lama for a wife lol.Seriously chill out srry if i dont go with the bandwagon.:rolf

pOrk
01-16-2008, 12:41 AM
The hole in the side of the pentagon was like 8ft tall and 5 ft wide. About a 1/10 the size of the airplane which supposedly flew INTO the building. Musta been a tight squeeze huh?

lasttimearound
01-16-2008, 12:43 AM
did personally see said hole? and dude with the name that sounds like a holset turbo, im not going to get into here, however pm if you want to discuss why this sh*t bugs me when little pricks like you start sh*t like this.

pOrk
01-16-2008, 01:14 AM
http://www.thetruth.mysite.com/pentagon%20hole.jpg

Supposedly there was another entrance point to the building, but photos didn't pop up until days later of the second hole.

Either way, there was little research done as to what actually happened and it leads people to believe this was some sort of cover up. I don't know what happened, and to tell you the truth I don't think anyone in the public will ever know.

HY35F2T
01-16-2008, 02:31 AM
pretty much what im saying but i get called a hippy cuz i say a few things/Oh and last time around you got such a problem with me seeing as im a prick heres my aim name. TPI350T56 we can go from there.

05caddyext
01-16-2008, 08:49 AM
If you have ALOT of time on your hands, check out this website. I am in NO WAY saying I believe that the attack was anything other than a plane, but this website is pretty interesting. It is at the very least the most in-depth analysis of "other possibilities" that I have seen. It would take days to read through it all, but there are several excellent pictures to look at. I haven't read through most of it, but the stuff I did read made me think.

http://davesweb.cnchost.com/index.html

There are a few freaky pictures on this page of that huge site (that picture of that girl standing there makes me sad.)

http://davesweb.cnchost.com/nwsltr69.html

05caddyext
01-16-2008, 08:51 AM
Supposedly there was another entrance point to the building, but photos didn't pop up until days later of the second hole.


That is a picture of the inside of the pentagon, not the outside where the plane actually hit the building. That picture is in the last "ring" of the pentagon, like 5 layers into the building.

Slow Joe
01-16-2008, 10:09 AM
http://www.thetruth.mysite.com/pentagon%20hole.jpg

Supposedly there was another entrance point to the building, but photos didn't pop up until days later of the second hole.

Either way, there was little research done as to what actually happened and it leads people to believe this was some sort of cover up. I don't know what happened, and to tell you the truth I don't think anyone in the public will ever know.

There's a video that goes with that... lemme find it... Ah, shit the server is "temporarially offline"

Here's the link when it comes back up... IF it comes back up... http://www.elchulo.net/files/pentagon.swf

Edit: The link talks about how the pentagon was hit, but there wasn't any airplane debris, etc... It also talks about how low the plane would of had to fly over the freeway... I thought it was interesting...

FASTZ2895
01-16-2008, 10:17 AM
Around the pentagon ther are hundreds of camera and video this is a fact. There's no question about camera and video machine in and around the pentagon. Also you may want to stop discussing this on line.


think how people are around nyc... now how many people are walking around by the pentagon? the chances are way more likely that someone will have a video camera on the streets of nyc, especially since nyc is a tourist spot, the pentagon really isnt.

pOrk
01-16-2008, 10:33 AM
Around the pentagon ther are hundreds of camera and video this is a fact. There's no question about camera and video machine in and around the pentagon. Also you may want to stop discussing this on line.

Why? Are we being watched? :banana1:

There is lots of footage of everything that happened, but none of it is being released and there is good reason for it I'm sure.

Where the plane hit, it would have to have been just inches above the grass to hit the building where it did too. Funny how the grass in all the photos that have been released looks as if it has been left un touched.

05caddyext
01-16-2008, 04:36 PM
Here is a picture of what it would have looked like.

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/7680/pentagonzg8.png

If you go to that website I placed on here earlier, there are hundreds of photos and accounts of that day, both at the WTC and the Pentagon. The fact that there is no video of the actual crash does raise some question, however I still believe it was not a fake.

And why should we stop talking about this online? This is freedom of speech. This is what this entire topic is about. Why "should" we stop? If you don't like what is being said, don't read it.

The point about the grass... The plane was supposedly traveling at over 450mph... And it would have traveled directly over the freeway. It took out some light poles, that was it.

Here are a few pictures of the trajectory and the "damage"

05caddyext
01-16-2008, 04:45 PM
http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/6782/approachtz2.png

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/4585/pole2fc6.jpg

http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/3402/pole3kf2.jpg


There are several pages dedicated to the theory that the cab in that picture was moved. There are different pictures showing the cab first sitting behind a stone wall, then behind a guard rail, no stone wall. Either way, you would think that a plane traveling at over 450mph would do some considerable damage to whatever it passed over that low.

Slow Joe
01-16-2008, 11:24 PM
Also you may want to stop discussing this on line.

Got Paranoia? :rolf

See that's what I've always wondered, it's kinda funny that there wasn't more damage yet you'd have a 747 (I think) flying feet above the freeway.

lasttimearound
01-17-2008, 12:05 AM
there were no 747s used that day, 757 hit the pentagon if i remember correctly.

http://www.the7thfire.com/images/PentagonLawn.jpg
now, how the is the picture pork posted the same building this picture is of... looks like it collapsed while still smoking, yet the structure is still pretty intact in that picture and there is no smoke. also, holset guy, sorry for calling you a prick last night, i was a little drunk and annoyed. i do hate conspiracy theorists, most of the time they are just trying to get famous

05caddyext
01-17-2008, 03:17 AM
The picture pork posted is not of the outside of the building. The picture you just posted is the outer "ring" of the Pentagon. The picture pork posted was taken in I believe the 4th or 5th "ring" of the Pentagon. The holes in the structure obviously got smaller as "whatever" hit the building broke up on impact.

lasttimearound
01-17-2008, 01:20 PM
but wtf is with the no parking sign?

05caddyext
01-17-2008, 03:15 PM
but wtf is with the no parking sign?


There are actual "roadways" in between all the "rings" of the structure itself. It is so huge, that there are roadways within the structure. You can see the yellow lines and paved surfaces in these pictures.

http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/9666/roadsi5.jpg

http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/8669/topvx3.jpg

lasttimearound
01-17-2008, 03:22 PM
Nice, didnt know they actually allowed vehicles on them. every time ive seen anything about it, there were just people walking on them. thanks for the info.

05caddyext
01-17-2008, 04:18 PM
I am sure they are not "roads" for cars to drive on. There are probably shuttle trolleys and golf carts that ride around in there taking people or items to different parts of the building.

07ROUSHSTG3
01-17-2008, 04:35 PM
think about it. the government, especially this administration, can;t keep anything from the media. do you honestly think that they could have pulled off 9/11 without anyone spewing their guts??? common sense should kick in anytime now.

for people to say that our government killed all those people for whatever reasons is kind of disturbing to me.

lasttimearound
01-17-2008, 05:48 PM
I am sure they are not "roads" for cars to drive on. There are probably shuttle trolleys and golf carts that ride around in there taking people or items to different parts of the building.

yeah, i knew what you meant. i meant that i didnt even know anything motorized used them, cool concept.

lasttimearound
01-17-2008, 05:48 PM
think about it. the government, especially this administration, can;t keep anything from the media. do you honestly think that they could have pulled off 9/11 without anyone spewing their guts??? common sense should kick in anytime now.

for people to say that our government killed all those people for whatever reasons is kind of disturbing to me.

exactly why i got so bent the other night.

Waver
01-18-2008, 10:59 AM
exactly why i got so bent the other night.


That is why I got pissed off to....I have seen so many of the conspiracy videos from 9/11 in the past few years it makes me sick...on one site that I am on there is an aircraft engeneer....he kind of put the whole thing to rest (someone said that the engine debris was too small to be a plaine engine, however the person forgot about the auxilliary engine mounted on the tail)