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juicedimpss
01-14-2008, 10:24 AM
bone stock with 15 miles on it....



126 to the wheel,looks to be pig rich,could pick up a few more with a tune.


not bad for a buell,not what i would call impressive for a 1125 either though.

DynoTom
01-14-2008, 12:08 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6NL3Whki2A&feature=related

pickardracing
01-14-2008, 12:43 PM
bone stock with 15 miles on it....



126 to the wheel,looks to be pig rich,could pick up a few more with a tune.


not bad for a buell,not what i would call impressive for a 1125 either though.

I'd imagine the torque is where the big numbers are at?

juicedimpss
01-14-2008, 12:48 PM
I'd imagine the torque is where the big numbers are at?

nope,it revs to 10,000....


we didnt get a torque number,we didnt have time to fish the inductive sensor to the plug wire(under the airbox cover)we just wanted to see how close it was to the claims that were made.
if you assume a 15% driveline loss,that puts it at 143 flywheel hp.

DynoTom
01-14-2008, 01:18 PM
nope,it revs to 10,000....


we didnt get a torque number,we didnt have time to fish the inductive sensor to the plug wire(under the airbox cover)we just wanted to see how close it was to the claims that were made.
if you assume a 15% driveline loss,that puts it at 143 flywheel hp.


That is what we were gettin from them too....

70 cutlass 442
01-14-2008, 02:14 PM
at least harley decided to get away from the 100 year old technology on some of their bikes!

juicedimpss
01-14-2008, 02:15 PM
at least harley decided to get away from the 100 year old technology on some of their bikes!

yep,now they have something that should be able to compete with japanese 600cc bikes.
:goof

70 cutlass 442
01-14-2008, 02:27 PM
yep,now they have something that should be able to compete with japanese 600cc bikes.
:goof

only took over a century :rolf how much will that thing sell for?

juicedimpss
01-14-2008, 02:32 PM
i think we sold this one for 11 ish

whitehatch
01-14-2008, 03:09 PM
i think we sold this one for 11 ish

:stare any new japanese 600 out would run circles around it for at least 2k less, must have liked the styling better maybe?:punch:

pickardracing
01-14-2008, 03:31 PM
So.... It's a rev-happy 1125cc v-twin that tops off at 126 hp? For 11K?

Does anyone else fail to see the logic here?

juicedimpss
01-14-2008, 03:35 PM
So.... It's a rev-happy 1125cc v-twin that tops off at 126 hp? For 11K?

Does anyone else fail to see the logic here?

its called "union workers"

i dont personally know anyone who thinks they make "too much money" at their job,which drives the prices of american made products to the top.

do i think its the best buy on the market? no.
do i think it is the best bike on the buell(or harley) line so far.....yep.

juicedimpss
01-14-2008, 03:37 PM
:stare any new japanese 600 out would run circles around it for at least 2k less, must have liked the styling better maybe?:punch:

i wouldnt say "run circles around" im sure they are very comparable,honestly.

i dont know that most people in the market for the buell or the jap 600cc market could ever ride either to its full potential anyways...
i cant remember the last time ive seen a bike around the city that needed tires because the sides were worn out...

cannonball
01-14-2008, 03:41 PM
Not bad for a Buell, but Ducati's new 848 makes 136 (at the crank) and revs to 12,500. Not to mention it has really dialed brakes and chassis components.

juicedimpss
01-14-2008, 03:44 PM
Not bad for a Buell, but Ducati's new 848 makes 136 (at the crank) and revs to 12,500. Not to mention it has really dialed brakes and chassis components.

do those things still sound like a panhead?

clankity clank?

70 cutlass 442
01-14-2008, 03:52 PM
do those things still sound like a panhead?

clankity clank?

probably, since its one of the best clutch designs in the world.

pickardracing
01-14-2008, 03:56 PM
do i think it is the best bike on the buell(or harley) line so far.....yep.

Thats not saying much.

juicedimpss
01-14-2008, 04:03 PM
Thats not saying much.

with the economy being "so shitty" i think it says alot.
they could have easily dumped the project,yet didnt.

on the other end,people are still buying the stuff.

Breecher_7
01-14-2008, 04:05 PM
Engine is not made by harley, it is made by Can-Am if you didnt already know this. I have already had a chance to ride this thing. I dont like how it handles and as far as power is concerned Ill still take a 600cc jap bike over it.

Atleast harley is going in the right direction here though, get a company that can build a solid engine to do there dirty work.

I think if they are going to stick with a twin, although can am builds awsome engines, they need to go to someone that really builds PERFORMANCE twins. I suggest a talk with the people at Aprillia.

juicedimpss
01-14-2008, 04:07 PM
can-am?
i thought it was Rotax? or is that that same company now?

Breecher_7
01-14-2008, 04:09 PM
i cant remember the last time ive seen a bike around the city that needed tires because the sides were worn out...

Come look at mine ron........

Breecher_7
01-14-2008, 04:10 PM
can-am?
i thought it was Rotax? or is that that same company now?

Can Am....... Remember where I work? :thumbsup

juicedimpss
01-14-2008, 04:11 PM
Come look at mine ron........

lets look at the "majority" of the bikes,rather than the handful of real riders.

cannonball
01-14-2008, 04:13 PM
loud clutches save lives!

cannonball
01-14-2008, 04:14 PM
by the way, the 848 is a wet clutch anyway!

juicedimpss
01-14-2008, 04:18 PM
loud clutches save lives!

lol,they sure will keep you awake at a stoplight..
:rolf

Jsho13
01-14-2008, 05:26 PM
I like the bike. I like my Buell. I don't need something with a ton of power but I like the torque. Sounds like a Harley with the pipe. In a few years I will probably pick up an 1125R.

70 cutlass 442
01-14-2008, 06:04 PM
Atleast harley is going in the right direction here though, get a company that can build a solid engine to do there dirty work.




could not have been said any better.

pickardracing
01-14-2008, 08:08 PM
So Ski-Doo (BRP) makes the motors?

No wonder it doesnt make any power. LOL

WickedSix
01-14-2008, 08:18 PM
tho it is a step forward....still seems like you are buying into a name with this bike...... union workers or not ... I bet etsukio was darn happy earning what he did putting my lil suzuki together :thumbsup

Reverend Cooper
01-14-2008, 09:20 PM
i must admit that it looks pretty cool tho, that rocker is gayer than aids tho

pOrk
01-15-2008, 12:43 AM
Most everything I was thinking was already said, but I'll add my icing to the cake.

All of the advertising I have been seeing for this turd is giving numbers out above 140 for hp. Advertising crank hp is buells way to make their bike sound like it has more balls then it does.

2008 GSXR 1000 from the factory is 183? hp at the crank? Same price, but I guarantee the zuk will be a ton more reliable and when you take the bike in for service, you will get what you pay for. The 600 in 06/07 was doing 100 at the wheels, but was also lighter and more agile. Again, reliability plays a huge role. I don't know anyone that has a Buell with high miles and says they never sunk a dime into it besides routine maint.

Josepy
01-15-2008, 08:49 AM
i come from riding rockets for 9 years. This last spring i switched to a cruiser. I think a lot of the time the power of the bike is not the selling point. If so I wouldnt of went from a 160rwhp bike that weighed 360 pounds to a 100rwhp and 100rwtq bike that weighs 600-700 pounds.
I enjoy my harley for what it is. Plus I rode like a jackass on my rockets. Wheelies and stoppied all the time. It was going to bite me sooner or later so I chose to quit riding them. I bought an 06 cbr1000rr last august and kept it 2 months and realized I did not need the rocket.

I will agree Harley is way overpriced. They really need to get with the porgram on technology. There starting too with the new bikes but still lacks a lot. Even the knew screaming eagle 110cu motor is having a lot of problems. There pretty much letting the consumer do there testing which is complete BS.

I am hoping my bike sells so I can get one of these custom made for me.
http://www.insanechoppersmilwaukeewi.com/bikes/default.asp?Album=chopper2-4

juicedimpss
01-15-2008, 09:00 AM
what problems are people having with the 110 engine?

Breecher_7
01-15-2008, 10:17 AM
what problems are people having with the 110 engine?

Its underpowered :banana :rolf

pOrk
01-15-2008, 10:46 AM
^ Thats just the beginning

pickardracing
01-15-2008, 10:55 AM
It's complete and utter rubbish?

Breecher_7
01-15-2008, 10:57 AM
So Ski-Doo (BRP) makes the motors?

No wonder it doesnt make any power. LOL


Is this also why Can Am makes the nastiest most powerful ATV's on the market? This sounds like a biased oppinion to me.... :alcoholic

pickardracing
01-15-2008, 10:59 AM
Yellow means slow down, Green means GO.

Josepy
01-15-2008, 12:02 PM
what problems are people having with the 110 engine?

gasket problems, o-ring problems, flywheel run out problems, rocker clearance problems, fuel guage problems, and speedo problems. Oil pissing out the rear cyclinder. go to cvoharley.com you can read about the 110's problems on there. if anyone gets one get the warranty.

Breecher_7
01-15-2008, 12:10 PM
gasket problems, o-ring problems, flywheel run out problems, rocker clearance problems, fuel guage problems, and speedo problems. Oil pissing out the rear cyclinder. go to cvoharley.com you can read about the 110's problems on there. if anyone gets one get the warranty.

Yet another reason why harley is now being smart and having someone else build there engines....

juicedimpss
01-15-2008, 12:18 PM
gasket problems, o-ring problems, flywheel run out problems, rocker clearance problems, fuel guage problems, and speedo problems. Oil pissing out the rear cyclinder. go to cvoharley.com you can read about the 110's problems on there. if anyone gets one get the warranty.

the only problem you have that we have seen is the fuel guage issue,none of the rest are anything we have seen much of if at all.
these are problems YOU have had,or problems others have had?
is the bike serviced at a HD dealer,or at an independant shop?

Josepy
01-15-2008, 01:32 PM
this is problems that others have had. not me. i have the screaming eagle 103cu motor. think i am going to wait a year or 2 till i buy a new harley.

pickardracing
01-15-2008, 01:46 PM
Yet another reason why harley is now being smart and having someone else build there engines....

So, it took 105 years for them to figure out that they build shit motors?

How many years will it be til they realize that BRP makes only marginally better garbage?

Breecher_7
01-15-2008, 02:11 PM
So, it took 105 years for them to figure out that they build shit motors?

How many years will it be til they realize that BRP makes only marginally better garbage?

Explain to me why BRP's engines are garbage? Sounds to me like you just dont like BRP.

I nitpick stuff to pieces around here, everyone on this board knows this. I have not a bad thing to say about BRP's engines. They are well designed and damn near bulletproof from the factory.

Josepy
01-15-2008, 02:16 PM
i really like my 103cu motor. Has 9,000 miles on it and I am not easy on it and have not had 1 problem. looking to put a bigger cam in it this spring and do some head work.