Finally, the ZR1 is fully unveiled

[6forwardgears]

Check this out:

http://jalopnik.com/cars/detroit-auto-show/2009-chevrolet-corvette-zr1-revealed-officially-334923.php

Thing is haaawwwt :drool:

[GHOSST]

Man... I might have to just steal one...

[Breecher_7]

Hmmm......It may be time for a very early mid life crisis......

600hp with a supercharged engine... Im hoping this will go the way of the 03-04 cobra's and the supercharger has a hell of alot more potential. 750hp with bolt ons would be impressive!

I notice there is no prospective MSRP listed.......

[Deggy]

that thing is hot.

[BAD LS1]

Hmmm......It may be time for a very early mid life crisis......

600hp with a supercharged engine... Im hoping this will go the way of the 03-04 cobra's and the supercharger has a hell of alot more potential. 750hp with bolt ons would be impressive!

I notice there is no prospective MSRP listed.......

Lol i bet this thing doesnt even make over 10PSI in factory trim. The aftermarket should have a blast with these things.

[GHOSST]

I notice there is no prospective MSRP listed....... Suggested MSRP: Well get back to you on that:thumbsup ~GM

[Syclone0044]

If the bottom end is anything like the LS7, I predict seeing 1000 HP bolt on builds by the dozen!!

It's pretty obvious all it would take is more boost (and possibly a bigger blower). Hope the drivetrain is stout enough to handle all that power! Wonder if they made any significant changes to the trans?

One strange thing is they quote only 595 LB-FT torque.... Seems hard to believe given the nature of a positive displacement Roots blower and the size of the engine. I would guess they have either some serious torque management arbitrarily crippling the peak torque, or it's just a flat out lie and the real number is substantially higher. I couldn't find any mention of the specific RPM of the engine or the redline either.

EDIT: They say 6,600 RPM

[STANMAN]

Not a bad looking car, but I think the price tag will be near, or above, the Ford GT level ($150K). Remember, back in 1989 the sticker for a ZR1 was $66K, and that was a HUGE sticker price for a car back then for those youngins on the board :rolf

[Breecher_7]

Not a bad looking car, but I think the price tag will be near, or above, the Ford GT level ($150K). Remember, back in 1989 the sticker for a ZR1 was $66K, and that was a HUGE sticker price for a car back then for those youngins on the board :rolf

I dunno..... I guess we will see. If that thing is over 90K they can send it back to the R&D department! That is alot of money. I personally could not justify that. Id rather pick up a 2007 1LT C6 for 40K, dump 15K into it and have a hell of alot more car then then a stock Z06 or this ZR1.

In theroy its cool, the possibilities with the factory supercharger are cool, but the price tag will most likely be out of control as you said.

[6forwardgears]

I believe I've read that the MSRP is going to be a little over 100k, like 104,000.

And by the way Bob, this car would clobber a Ford GT. The C6 Z06 was a pretty even match though.

[STANMAN]

I believe I've read that the MSRP is going to be a little over 100k, like 104,000.

And by the way Bob, this car would clobber a Ford GT. The C6 Z06 was a pretty even match though.

Oh, it may beat the pants off of a Ford GT. But riddle me this, would you rather have a fast ZR1 that looks similar to every other of the 5 bazillion Vettes on the road, or a "slow" Ford GT that doesn't look like ANYTHING else on the road??? I think you know my answer:D

[Deggy]

Oh, it may beat the pants off of a Ford GT. But riddle me this, would you rather have a fast ZR1 that looks similar to every other of the 5 bazillion Vettes on the road, or a "slow" Ford GT that doesn't look like ANYTHING else on the road??? I think you know my answer:D

i'd rather have any corvette over a ford GT. :wow

[Prince Valiant]

What I don't get is the clear plastic shield that lets me see the plastic engine shield?
Please, put some funtional cowl hood, or shaker, vents...anything but the see through plate...that's cool on a mid/rear engine car. Not here.

Otherwise, it's the hawtness.

My guess, at a quoted 595 ft'lbs of torque, you are probably looking at only 8 lbs....

[Deggy]

i didn't even notice the plexi-glass kinda see through thing on the hood....not feeling that, but the car over all is still hot.

[STANMAN]

i'd rather have any corvette over a ford GT. :wow

You drive a lowered Grand Am. Your taste is questionable:thumbsup:rolf


BTW-how was your B-day? I didn't get a call, so they must not have been scooping you off the floor @ closing time:wow

[Karps TA]

The see thru hood is ridiculously cheezy. It's dumb enough they can only make the engine look good by throwing a big plastic cover over it. But then to show off the big plastic cover? Makes zero sense. Seems like something a riced out Civic would have.

And the interior is pretty blah for what this car is going to cost. Typical boring monotone dash. I think the dash in my Monte looks nicer.

[STANMAN]

The see thru hood is ridiculously cheezy. It's dumb enough they can only make the engine look good by throwing a big plastic cover over it. But then to show off the big plastic cover? Makes zero sense. Seems like something a riced out Civic would have.

And the interior is pretty blah for what this car is going to cost. Typical boring monotone dash. I think the dash in my Monte looks nicer.



Been a problem with the Vette FOREVER. Interior by Hasbro:rolf

[wikked]

I'll take one in black plz.
*fap fap fap*

[GTSLOW]

I dunno..... I guess we will see. If that thing is over 90K they can send it back to the R&D department! That is alot of money. I personally could not justify that. Id rather pick up a 2007 1LT C6 for 40K, dump 15K into it and have a hell of alot more car then then a stock Z06 or this ZR1.

In theroy its cool, the possibilities with the factory supercharger are cool, but the price tag will most likely be out of control as you said.

I think it would take a lil more than 15k to touch a ZR1 in all departments.

[Deggy]

You drive a lowered Grand Am. Your taste is questionable:thumbsup:rolf


BTW-how was your B-day? I didn't get a call, so they must not have been scooping you off the floor @ closing time:wow

love you too bob.....yeah no scooping me off the floor, but i did manage to get drunk enough to puke all over the side of my friends car...

and i lost your number and got a new phone, so PM me your number..

[Breecher_7]

I think it would take a lil more than 15k to touch a ZR1 in all departments.


Ok, 25K then, that better for ya? Still 40K under the price of that *****... They can keep that mother for 105K.

[Yooformula]

You drive a lowered Grand Am. Your taste is questionable
and you drive a cookie cutter, candy cane.........YOUR taste is a bit suspect as well:goof

[BAD LS1]

The vette's interior fits right in with today euro-styled interiors... Big deal if it dont have an flashy bling, its all buisness. What do you want from a factory race car? Also i'm glad 2 of the big 3 left porno red interiors in the dust back in the mid 90's as well!

[jbiscuit]

the clear piece on the hood looks out of place and I have to agree that even for a factory-built racer like this guy it should have a cooler interior. SH1t, leave the GM seat out of it and throw full tilt Recaros in it like these:

http://www.darkhorseracingsafety.com/products/Recaro_Profi.jpg

[6forwardgears]

I don't get the comments on the interior. If you've been in a C6 the build quality is nice and everything feels good. It's definitely the nicest domestic interior I've been in. It's a Corvette so everything is about business and function over form.

The C6 Z06 I drove felt great inside. The seat leather was nice, the steering wheel felt awesome, and the all the switchgear felt nice and solid too. It was surprisingly quiet inside too, not a lot of road noise.

[GTSLOW]

the clear piece on the hood looks out of place and I have to agree that even for a factory-built racer like this guy it should have a cooler interior. SH1t, leave the GM seat out of it and throw full tilt Recaros in it like these:

http://www.darkhorseracingsafety.com/products/Recaro_Profi.jpg

Those would look/be killer in a vette!

[Deggy]

and you drive a cookie cutter, candy cane.........YOUR taste is a bit suspect as well:goof

nice one Yoo.

[Anakonda69]

that car is pure sex....

[Waver]

Eh I dont like it....seems like somthing out of the fast and the furious....the engine is pure sex though

[Z28Roxy]

Damnit, roots style blower :mad:

[6forwardgears]

Damnit, roots style blower :mad:

I guess if you read the writeups on it, it has some sort of new "four lobe" rotors which makes the blower a LOT more efficient then the previous Eatons like Ford used.

[Z28Roxy]

I guess if you read the writeups on it, it has some sort of new "four lobe" rotors which makes the blower a LOT more efficient then the previous Eatons like Ford used.

I wanted to also see a non-roots though, just to be different.

[07ROUSHSTG3]

the new roots blowers are really amazing. some of the new eatons are pushing out twin turbo numbers!

as for the interior being crappy.......i drive a mustang, so i can;t say anything about that, LOL!

great job GM!! can;t wait to see the aftermarket get ahold of that motor!

[Anakonda69]

Eh I dont like it....seems like somthing out of the fast and the furious....the engine is pure sex though

guess we watched some different f & f movies cuz the ones i have seen have nothing that looks like that at all........i know they blasphemed a mustang but don't hate on them for that......lol

[94greenbandit]

I love that vette. Other than the plastic peekaboo glass that can go. I would definitely get this over a Ford GT. You may think it looks like all the other vettes but imagine your suprise when it leaves you in the dust when you think it is just any other vette.

[JC70SS]

650 hp for $105K? No thanks. And ditch the ZR1 name, that overpriced turd was an embarresment!

[STANMAN]

and you drive a cookie cutter, candy cane.........YOUR taste is a bit suspect as well:goof

I would have bought a red 05 Formula and slapped a black hood on it to be original, but yeah.......


Oh, and it would have had a red interior to, but again, yeah..................


































Merry Christmas everyone:thumbsup:rolf

[STANMAN]

the new roots blowers are really amazing. some of the new eatons are pushing out twin turbo numbers!

as for the interior being crappy.......i drive a mustang, so i can;t say anything about that, LOL!

great job GM!! can;t wait to see the aftermarket get ahold of that motor!



I actually think the new Mustang interiors are really nice. Granted, I put on a brushed aluminum trim kit on mine, but even stock I think they are nice. Nicer than Vettes, that's for sure.

[Beagle]

the official zr1 page is now up


http://www.chevrolet.com/corvette/zr1

[SLOWC5]

2007 and older had an all plastic dash, GM changes it in 2008 to leather wrapped. Just like the european " sports cars" and people are still not happy. Find something better about the supercar to complain about

I'd take that ordinary looking vette anyday

[Beagle]

2007 and older had an all plastic dash, GM changes it in 2008 to leather wrapped. Just like the european " sports cars" and people are still not happy. Find something better about the supercar to complain about

I'd take that ordinary looking vette anyday

i would take any vette. :thumbsup

[SLOWC5]

Add a twin screw design blower and a 8 rib pulley system over a standard 6 rib. Sounds like the ducks are in a row for another great GM product

[6forwardgears]

I actually think the new Mustang interiors are really nice. Granted, I put on a brushed aluminum trim kit on mine, but even stock I think they are nice. Nicer than Vettes, that's for sure.

Have you even been in a C6 Vette for any amount of time? I think the build quality in the Mustang and Vette interiors is pretty similar (I haven't been in an 08 though)

[STANMAN]

Have you even been in a C6 Vette for any amount of time? I think the build quality in the Mustang and Vette interiors is pretty similar (I haven't been in an 08 though)

You should not have to ask that question, you know I wouldn't want to spend to much time in ANY GM product, I may get infected!!!! :rolf

I am not talking about build quality, I am just saying visually the Stang interior is WAY nicer than the Vette.

[SLOWC5]

You should not have to ask that question, you know I wouldn't want to spend to much time in ANY GM product, I may get infected!!!! :rolf

I am not talking about build quality, I am just saying visually the Stang interior is WAY nicer than the Vette.

Would you scare yourself because the car is actually fast?

[STANMAN]

Would you scare yourself because the car is actually fast?

I drove a mid 11 second Neon as a daily driver. After that do you think anything scares me:rolf

[BAD LS1]

Lol oh no! So many people siding with a GM product... Damn conspiracy i tell you!

Cant wait to see what Jeff has to say about the latest post ^^^^

[STANMAN]

Lol oh no! So many people siding with a GM product... Damn conspiracy i tell you!

Cant wait to see what Jeff has to say about the latest post ^^^^

I am just saying it was a Neon, with a manual, FWD, and had torque steer like no other. I would rather drive a 9 second RWD car than an 11 second FWD car. Driving the Neon was a challenge, even for me, and I think I am an above average driver. I was just answering his question if fast cars scare me, because trust me, they don't.

[jbiscuit]

I love the car and its performance/potential. I just think they should have gone "all the way" with it and threw some super hugging seats in that bish. Then they could throw a sticker on the back that says, "sorry ladies...no fatties."

[BAD LS1]

Well bob i think you answered why a small percentage of people are mental enough to build up those cars anyway. All those points make it ****ed right off the bat.

[BAD LS1]

I love the car and its performance/potential. I just think they should have gone "all the way" with it and threw some super hugging seats in that bish. Then they could throw a sticker on the back that says, "sorry ladies...no fatties."

Meh the side impact bags in the seats most likley limit the seats unfortunantly

[SLOWC5]

So your going to compare the acceleration or lack there of, of a 11.5sec FWD car on the street. A car that get zero traction on the street and smokes the tires is scary? Just cause the speedo says 120mph and your banging gear doesn't mean the cars going that fast. FWD performance feels nothing like RWD. I had a 12.5sec FWD grand prix, all that car did was spin the tires, My vette is stock form was a more scary ride.

I dont think you can compare the power/feel/control/speed factor when talking FWD vs RWD..

IMO

[STANMAN]

So your going to compare the acceleration or lack there of, of a 11.5sec FWD car on the street. A car that get zero traction on the street and smokes the tires is scary? Just cause the speedo says 120mph and your banging gear doesn't mean the cars going that fast. FWD performance feels nothing like RWD. I had a 12.5sec FWD grand prix, all that car did was spin the tires, My vette is stock form was a more scary ride.

I dont think you can compare the power/feel/control/speed factor when talking FWD vs RWD..

IMO

Oh, it got plenty of traction, and not just on the track. I would race anyone from a dig, it wasn't a ricer roll wonder like most FWD cars. FYI- the speedo on the Neon went to 160 and it was buried on 4 occasions. Over 160 in a Neon? That's scary, lol.

And you can't compare RWD to FWD, that's what I am saying. To pilot a manual FWD car to a mid 11 takes SKILL.

And yeah Tom, it was a FUBAR platform, you won't get an arguement there. But, that's kinda why I did it. Killing a Z06 from a roll(I know, I know, it didn't happen), or keeping up with a 750GSXR from a roll (again, in my imagination) in a Neon was just priceless. Well, actually it was pretty pricey, but you get the idea:goof

[Beagle]

hmmmm fwd spinning let off the gas and your going straight again. rwd going sideays let off the gas you still have to recover or hope it doesnt hook back up when you arent expecting it. yea id say rwd would be scary with alot of power. like toms car that thing doesnt hook anywhere and can get sideways at 75 im sure if not at a higher speed. fwd is more predictable imo.

[BAD LS1]

hmmmm fwd spinning let off the gas and your going straight again. rwd going sideays let off the gas you still have to recover or hope it doesnt hook back up when you arent expecting it. yea id say rwd would be scary with alot of power. like toms car that thing doesnt hook anywhere and can get sideways at 75 im sure if not at a higher speed. fwd is more predictable imo.

Yep FWD make fine winter cars, thats it. For me its not as frustrating being able to bake the tires at any given speed. That monte pisses me off more.

[Prince Valiant]

I'd think that while the torque steer on a FWD would be disconcerting, I'd think it's in no way comperable to a RWD potentially getting sideways REAL quick....sadly one of our members found this out at the track recently :(

Granted, my fastest FWD was a low 14 second/high 90's car, it was much much harder keeping directional control of the skinny tired valiant.

[STANMAN]

hmmmm fwd spinning let off the gas and your going straight again. rwd going sideays let off the gas you still have to recover or hope it doesnt hook back up when you arent expecting it. yea id say rwd would be scary with alot of power. like toms car that thing doesnt hook anywhere and can get sideways at 75 im sure if not at a higher speed. fwd is more predictable imo.

In a stock Focus, yeah. Try making serious power with a turbo FWD car and see which one is easier to manage. Take it from someone who's had squirrely ass RWD cars AND a high HP FWD turbo car, I would take the RWD car any day for predictability.

[SLOWC5]

hmmmm fwd spinning let off the gas and your going straight again. rwd going sideays let off the gas you still have to recover or hope it doesnt hook back up when you arent expecting it. yea id say rwd would be scary with alot of power. like toms car that thing doesnt hook anywhere and can get sideways at 75 im sure if not at a higher speed. fwd is more predictable imo.

Thats my point exactly, MY FWD was the same way. Torque steer takes the car left. What do you do, let of the gas and continue on your way. Thats at 50mph. Try just letting of the gas in a RWD with the ass end sideways at 50mph.

[Beagle]

Thats my point exactly, MY FWD was the same way. Torque steer takes the car left. What do you do, let of the gas and continue on your way. Thats at 50mph. Try just letting of the gas in a RWD with the ass end sideways at 50mph.

that was my point exactly. :thumbsup

[Beagle]

you really have to worry about the ass end going all the way around in a fwd car lol. bob not trying to talk shit about fwd ive driven a couple fwd turbo cars and they hang with my car pretty well comparing the two rwd is harder to drive. my car at 45 goes sideways, point being when i raced windsors 03 cobra i almost hit his back end granted his back end was going sideways toward mine. fwd i would have just feathered the gas and what do you know its going perfectly straight.

[WickedSix]

I don't think either is really harder to drive.....just different..... had many a vehicle with the ass hangin out all over the place....including fwd cars..... only one that ever scared me was a customers t-bucket too light with too much traction :mad:

[Beagle]

take forza 2 for example its harder to drive the rwd cars than the fwd cars. even if the fwd car has more power.

[WickedSix]

I understand what u mean.... drive tires can only produce a driving force in the direction they are pointed....in the case of a rwd that is loose you blip the gas and the car pushes against the turned from tires.....in a fwd car that is loose you blip the gas and the car tends back toward the intended direction of travel because the driving wheels are producing a force in that direction.

[STANMAN]

If Joel (05orangeblast) will let any of you drive his car, or even be a passenger, do it. Then come back here and report what you think. And the bigger the turbo the worse it is, it comes on later in the RPM band, and just keeps pulling until redline. I mean my car with the DBB 50 trim on it was pretty control-able, the GT35R, yeah, not so much. When 4200 RPMS came, you were just holding on and praying the car went where you had it pointed. And that was WITH mad traction mods.

Like I said, I really don't expect people to understand, because 90% of high HP FWD cars are either A. Dyno Queens or B. Roll Race Wonders Like I said take a ride/drive Joels car when it's done:devil

[Beagle]

ok so your telling me if someone has a 400+hp fwd car and they asked you if they could drive your 500+ rwd drive car you would let them?

[Breecher_7]

Wow how this has gotten off topic.

So yeah.....

Back to this overpriced shit machine....

[Beagle]

yea so that cyber gray the zr1 comes in is one bad ass looking color.

[Breecher_7]

I had my girl look into the C6's today for me. Can get a new one in 1lt trim with the "performance package" for under 40K. I think if I actualy get one, ill go that route.

I cant fathom paying 100k for a 600hp car.

[BAD LS1]

I had my girl look into the C6's today for me. Can get a new one in 1lt trim with the "performance package" for under 40K. I think if I actualy get one, ill go that route.

I cant fathom paying 100k for a 600hp car.

God you are just a ray of sunshine all the time, Does anything postitive come from your mouth?:rolf

[Breecher_7]

God you are just a ray of sunshine all the time, Does anything postitive come from your mouth?:rolf

YOu know Tom, Your not the first person to say that to me as you can imagine. The answer is, Rarely.... Im just generaly a cranky person.... :alcoholic

[Yooformula]

I actually think the new Mustang interiors are really nice. Granted, I put on a brushed aluminum trim kit on mine, but even stock I think they are nice. Nicer than Vettes, that's for sure.
you know put your ford nuthugging feelings aside. a Corvette interior is 100x better than a mustang interior and really cant be compared to. unless you have actually seen or sat in a new vette you cant say much about it. mustangs come with round vents, a few leds in the dash and now its the biggest thing than sliced bread!?! come on, from what I remember, I couldnt even row the gears fast enough without banging my knuckles into the radio. now I am not TRYING to bash on the stang interiors but give me a break with this already. yes, they are nice compared to other chick vehicles in their class but it really doesnt compare to the feel, comfort, support and layout of a new Vette. you wanna compare your interior to mine, fine the fbody SUCKS compared to the mustang but yours DOES NOT compare to that of a Vette.:banana1:

and my hood is not black, at least the two tone is more original than 2 psuedo racing stripes...whoa my, never saw that before!:goof

[STANMAN]

you know put your ford nuthugging feelings aside. a Corvette interior is 100x better than a mustang interior and really cant be compared to. unless you have actually seen or sat in a new vette you cant say much about it. mustangs come with round vents, a few leds in the dash and now its the biggest thing than sliced bread!?! come on, from what I remember, I couldnt even row the gears fast enough without banging my knuckles into the radio. now I am not TRYING to bash on the stang interiors but give me a break with this already. yes, they are nice compared to other chick vehicles in their class but it really doesnt compare to the feel, comfort, support and layout of a new Vette. you wanna compare your interior to mine, fine the fbody SUCKS compared to the mustang but yours DOES NOT compare to that of a Vette.:banana1:

and my hood is not black, at least the two tone is more original than 2 psuedo racing stripes...whoa my, never saw that before!:goof


Don't forget the side stripes!!!!!:headbang

And the 99-04 body styles had the shifter WAY to far forward, they fixed it with my body style though. Hows the shifter on the 03 and up Fbodies?

And you're right, you would think that as much as I played with GI Joe toys as a kid I would simply love the Vette interior, as Hasbro designed them both.

[BAD LS1]

Don't forget the side stripes!!!!!:headbang

And the 99-04 body styles had the shifter WAY to far forward, they fixed it with my body style though. Hows the shifter on the 03 and up Fbodies?

And you're right, you would think that as much as I played with GI Joe toys as a kid I would simply love the Vette interior, as Hasbro designed them both.

Not sure if your kidding on the 03+ F body thing??... But 94-04 moo's, the shifter aint even in the same zip code as the driver yes. The 05+ shifter, feels worse than a 04+ 6 speed GTO, kinda like a bus in outerspace.

To side with Yoo a bit, at least they vette's dash doesnt look like black shoe boxe's stapled together with a few over sized holes in it:rolf But it does fit fords on going quirky interiors persona to a T. They rocked the shit out of porno red interiors in the 80's too, wonder if beagles topaz has the porno red?? They are starting to feel the need to bring back the "lego block" style interiors like in the fox's too hhaha

[STANMAN]

Not sure if your kidding on the 03+ F body thing??... But 94-04 moo's, the shifter aint even in the same zip code as the driver yes. The 05+ shifter, feels worse than a 04+ 6 speed GTO, kinda like a bus in outerspace.

To side with Yoo a bit, at least they vette's dash doesnt look like black shoe boxe's stapled together with a few over sized holes in it:rolf But it does fit fords on going quirky interiors persona to a T. They rocked the shit out of porno red interiors in the 80's too, wonder if beagles topaz has the porno red?? They are starting to feel the need to bring back the "lego block" style interiors like in the fox's too hhaha

Yes, I was making a joke about the Maro/Bird going out of production. And red interiors were big on Cutlass's wayyyyyyy back. I remember my mom having a 442, white, with a red interior. I actually liked that car. I was only 5 and stupid though, that would explain the liking of something out of GM:rolf


JK, I would drive a GN in a heartbeat, loved that body style!!!

[Yellow2k1vette]

People don't buy Vettes for the interior.

People don't buy Mustangs for their light weight and agile handling..



And then, there's Dodge, for those folks that can overlook ALL of the above qualities. :thumbsup


:haveabeer

[Poncho]

I actually think the new Mustang interiors are really nice. Granted, I put on a brushed aluminum trim kit on mine, but even stock I think they are nice. Nicer than Vettes, that's for sure.

you are kidding me. You HAVE to be. the gaps in the panels/material are so big, I can use them to hold my cigars if I wanted. Not to mention the complete and utter lack of torque they have. Christ all those test drives in 05+ Mustangs we took before we got ours, the only way I would realize I was in a v6 v.s. the v8 was due to the different noise, and that the speedo moves a bit faster. You could drive it balls out from a dig and you wouldn't even wake up grandma asleep in the passenger seat.

[BOSS LX]

I like it!

I can only dream of a 2008 blown push rod Ford motor.

[WickedSix]

I like everything about the car except the peep hole in the hood....just doesn't do it for me....if the need the airflow hide it better imo....

[6forwardgears]

you are kidding me. You HAVE to be. the gaps in the panels/material are so big, I can use them to hold my cigars if I wanted. Not to mention the complete and utter lack of torque they have. Christ all those test drives in 05+ Mustangs we took before we got ours, the only way I would realize I was in a v6 v.s. the v8 was due to the different noise, and that the speedo moves a bit faster. You could drive it balls out from a dig and you wouldn't even wake up grandma asleep in the passenger seat.

Tell us how you really feel :rolf

[GRNDNL]

Idk..........I kind of like red interiors......:confused

[STANMAN]

Idk..........I kind of like red interiors......:confused

You can't, my car has one. (that's why everyone hates on them)

[Deggy]

If Joel (05orangeblast) will let any of you drive his car, or even be a passenger, do it. Then come back here and report what you think. And the bigger the turbo the worse it is, it comes on later in the RPM band, and just keeps pulling until redline. I mean my car with the DBB 50 trim on it was pretty control-able, the GT35R, yeah, not so much. When 4200 RPMS came, you were just holding on and praying the car went where you had it pointed. And that was WITH mad traction mods.

Like I said, I really don't expect people to understand, because 90% of high HP FWD cars are either A. Dyno Queens or B. Roll Race Wonders Like I said take a ride/drive Joels car when it's done:devil

i've never been in Joel's SRT-4, but i've seen him do some wicked pulls on the freeway....i had a hard time following him down to the east side in a big ass Chevy Avalanche.

[ffvetteman]

And ditch the ZR1 name, that overpriced turd was an embarresment!


Are you retarded?

What other car in that time frame had all aluminum, hand built, 4 cam, 32 valve engines?

What other car in that time frame had numbers anywhere near what the ZR-1 put down.

Moron

[GRNDNL]

You can't, my car has one. (that's why everyone hates on them)


I'm almost out of nice SS's & Z-28's, when I can't find anymore I wouldn't mind a Moostang like yours for a winter beater.....:punch:;)

[HITMAN]

The ZR1 'Vette is awesome. That is all.
You drama queens may now go back to your regularly scheduled sandy vagina scratching session...:rolleyes:

[GTSLOW]

The ZR1 'Vette is awesome. That is all.
You drama queens may now go back to your regularly scheduled sandy vagina scratching session...:rolleyes:

:rolf x1000000000

[STANMAN]

The ZR1 'Vette is awesome. That is all.
You drama queens may now go back to your regularly scheduled sandy vagina scratching session...:rolleyes:

Hey, don't just make a comment and leave there buddy. At least recommend a powder or some sort of ointment to moisturize with. JEEZ!!!:thumbsup:rolf:rolf:rolf