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Rocket Power
12-14-2007, 07:25 PM
Got my Gew 88 bolt from centerfire, better than the barreled actions.:goof
Needs a bolt head and a couple other pieces. I think I am going to order a new parts Gew88 from OWS, they are supposed to be more complete.


Also if I get time this weekend I am going to press in my cetme barrel.

I also got around to shellacing my ak furniture, used zinser amber, looks pretty decent.


That is all:goof

Who's Next......

Rocket Power
12-14-2007, 09:51 PM
Been cleaning up the best of the 3 receiver / barrel combo's . It's one with a czech barrel which are supposed to be .318 bores, unlike the more common .323 bores for 8mm. They say Remington commercial 8mm is safe to shot in these, but not the hotter surplus or current euro ammo. Actually got some shine out of it. Not in too bad of shape for being in a shed in Ecuador for 70+ years:goof some pitting but hey it was $8.
The sad part is the receiver markings are the faintest of the 3 (all are 1890 Spandau's which is an odd luck of the draw). But if nothing else I have a couple cool 117 year old paperweights:rolf

USMARINE1108
12-16-2007, 09:35 PM
Not a build exactly, but drilled and taped my Rem 514 .22. Went much easier than I had anticipated. As I started to research this project, I read many horror stories about the metal being very hard. It wasnt a big deal. I bought Weaver bases, Warne rings and I used a BSA Contender I had laying around. Shoots much better than I thought it would, 10 shots the size of a dime at 25yds. Now I need to do something about the trigger, it feels like sandpaper lol.

http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/6086/dsc01976un0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/3204/dsc01977fo3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Rocket Power
12-17-2007, 12:12 AM
Nice. That's some nifty grain in the stock:headbang

Rocket Power
12-22-2007, 06:56 PM
Got the barrel pressed in the cetme today:headbang
with a .020 bolt gap:headbang
Still have to drill for the pin, but at least it's starting to look like a gun:rolf
Edit-
Here's a crappy camera phone pic
http://usera.imagecave.com/vista461/cetme/cetmebarrelin.jpg

Rocket Power
12-22-2007, 08:52 PM
Eventually I want this stock
http://www.magpul.com/catalog/images/prsg3_01.jpg
and this scope and mount

http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/ctd_images/bgprod/SCP-074.jpg

:drool:

MurphysLaw88GT
12-31-2007, 12:15 AM
gettin the coin together to finish AKS-74 and 1919a4 builds.

USMARINE1108
12-31-2007, 12:32 AM
gettin the coin together

The hardest part of any build!:durr

Rocket Power
01-05-2008, 11:10 AM
Well I think I may give up on the Gew88 build. I just read OWS is out of parts guns and I saw a pic of a recent shipment. not good.
I may just buy an already done one eventually.
I am thinking about a flat build for a CETME/G3. and getting an RC K98K.
And some parts for my 64:headbang and maybe a romy kit:rolf

USMARINE1108
01-05-2008, 12:22 PM
Bar stool time! :thumbsup

Rocket Power
01-05-2008, 01:59 PM
May do that, :rolf or may just part them out. The receivers are good on all 3 and have a couple good parts on them .

USMARINE1108
01-11-2008, 11:09 PM
Just finished this build for a buddy tonight.

http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/7427/43363898rz3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/9535/46144416ss8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

DPMS 16" HBAR 1/9 twist
Bushmaster chrome bolt/carrier
LMT upper
Essential Arms lower
RRA 2 stage trigger
CAA grip
MagPul stock
YHM rifle length rail
YHM gas block
TA-11 ACOG
Larue mount

Hey's planning on some Troy back up iron sights. :thumbsup

Reverend Cooper
01-12-2008, 01:19 AM
Just finished this build for a buddy tonight.

http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/7427/43363898rz3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/9535/46144416ss8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

DPMS 16" HBAR 1/9 twist
Bushmaster chrome bolt/carrier
LMT upper
Essential Arms lower
RRA 2 stage trigger
CAA grip
MagPul stock
YHM rifle length rail
YHM gas block
TA-11 ACOG
Larue mount

Hey's planning on some Troy back up iron sights. :thumbsup

how much was this to build

USMARINE1108
01-12-2008, 10:08 PM
how much was this to build

He was right at $650 for parts. That's without the ACOG. We took it to the range today, it fired 100% for all 100rds.

Crawlin
01-15-2008, 10:29 AM
How do you register a gun like that, that is all custom? Will it still have a serial number on part of the gun?

Breecher_7
01-15-2008, 10:37 AM
How do you register a gun like that, that is all custom? Will it still have a serial number on part of the gun?

Wisconsin doesnt really have a active "weapon registry" like california does. Unless the reciever was purchased new from an FFL, there is most likely no actual federal paperwork of whom the current owner of it is.

Crawlin
01-15-2008, 11:25 AM
Ok, so how about this...

What do I need if I wanted a build like that(registration wise, legality wise, etc...)

Does WI have a magazine limit? I see people advertising 30rd and 10rd depending on state laws?

Breecher_7
01-15-2008, 11:30 AM
In wisconsin, if its semi automatic, you can own it. If you want to run around with a 100rd mag hanging out of your AR, go for it.

You do not need anything to buid a gun like that, just buy the parts through your local FFL or about a million other ways.

MurphysLaw88GT
01-15-2008, 11:44 AM
In wisconsin, if its semi automatic, you can own it. If you want to run around with a 100rd mag hanging out of your AR, go for it.

You do not need anything to buid a gun like that, just buy the parts through your local FFL or about a million other ways.

This is true. And then the only part that needs a transfer thru an FFL is the lower reciever, unless you buy from a private party, or make it your self for YOUR OWN USE and would be destroyed or serial numbered before transfer to another perty.

But lets say on the AK-74 I was building, I make my own reciever, I do NOT need serial # untill I would transfer the weapon (then I need to put mfr, caliber, model, place of origin). because tecnically I made the "firearm" or reciever.

Crawlin
01-15-2008, 12:10 PM
Ok, cool. I'm just looking at the pieces and parts and building my own. Been reading over on AR15.com on the build guides and assembly manual stuff. Looks "fairly" easy, as long as you pay attention.

So if I purchase a stripped lower reciever and the parts kit through any one of a million online sources, I will be ok right?

Or would it be better to go through Badger Outdoor or Cabella's or something?

Breecher_7
01-15-2008, 12:12 PM
Id just buy a fully assembled Colt AR-15 and be done with it. Then modify as you want. Start with a great platform that technically needs nothing.

http://www.impactguns.com/store/colt_rifles.html

MurphysLaw88GT
01-15-2008, 12:13 PM
the stripped lower has to be sent thru an FFL, but a parts kit will be fine to be sent right to your house. If badger or cabellas has lowers there go buy one if you want.

you wont regret assembling your own, it is fun and you will learn that particular firearm very well. Great learning experience.

Breecher_7
01-15-2008, 12:20 PM
you wont regret assembling your own, it is fun and you will learn that particular firearm very well. Great learning experience.

Agreed......

But as a first time owner with no experience with that firearm, i would recommend a complete firearm.

MurphysLaw88GT
01-15-2008, 12:27 PM
headspace shmedspace

Crawlin
01-15-2008, 02:01 PM
HAHAHA

i've read alot about that, but I guess the part that confuses me and I may just be looking into it TOO much, but at what point in the assembly process would that be checked?

MurphysLaw88GT
01-15-2008, 02:28 PM
i believe it is when the barrel extension is installed on the barrel on that particuar arm, or when a different bolt is installed

Crawlin
01-15-2008, 02:35 PM
so if buying a "complete upper", one would be safe to assume that it was already checked?

Rocket Power
01-15-2008, 05:35 PM
CHecking headspace is for suckers.:goof J/K

USMARINE1108
01-16-2008, 11:55 PM
so if buying a "complete upper", one would be safe to assume that it was already checked?

Yes. If you buy a complete upper assembled at a factory, the headspace will be checked and it will have been test fired. Always weird buying a brand new gun and when you take it out of the box it's dirty! Anyway, the idea is that since the upper and barrel are both milspec, they will headspace just fine. I know quite a few people who have built AR's and not checked headspace before putting rounds down range and had no problems. However, the way I look at it, a headspace gauge is cheep peice of mind. I check it at assembly and after 100 rounds. Yes, they have always headspaced fine for me and required no tweeking. No, I've never seen one be out of spec after 100 rounds. However, better safe then sorry. Just like when you build a motor, you're going to watch it like a hawk.

Just to clarify a little more, a stripped lower needs to go through a FFL (gun shop). Every other part can go to your house via USPS, UPS, FEDEX, carrier pigeon etc. The lower has to go through a FFL because it has a serial number, and a backround check needs to be done (that's what the FFL does for you).

And for the record, I'm a fan of building my own. A quality rifle can be built and speced how you want it much cheaper. But, it's up to the individual. It's just like building/modding a car the way I see it. You can do it yourself and take it to GLD or you can have it built by a shop and take it to GLD. I will say that I do highly recommend some firearms safety/handling/marksmanship training for anyone who has never had it.


***nevermind, I just saw the other thread......***

Crawlin
01-18-2008, 06:57 PM
Alright, how about another quick question...

WI have any sort of overall length requirements for it to be classified as a "rifle"? I know the overall barrel length has to be 16" unless getting the tax stamp/permit setup as a short-barrel-rifle. But looking for OVERALL length

Since the assault weapon ban has expired, i'm assuming a collapsible stock is OK now? Or is that only on certain vintage equipment?

Rocket Power
03-15-2008, 09:41 PM
I have finally gotten around to throwing the cetme on the mill to drill the barrel pin hole. Next is welding the cocking tube,(one of my friends since I don't know how to tig) then eventually the range:headbang
Still looks like this but with a pin in the hole to hold the barrel:goof
http://usera.imagecave.com/vista461/cetme/cetmebarrelin.jpg

That_Guy
03-15-2008, 11:11 PM
i wish a had a cool ass assault rifle to show off but all i have is my fully decked out rem 700 sps dm tactical.. well its just a sps but it has the drop mag thus making it a dm..

looks like this with out the muzzle break...
http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q111/nramlow2006/TikkaT3_Tactical.jpg

and my defender.
http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q111/nramlow2006/randompictures013.jpg
http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q111/nramlow2006/randompictures012.jpg
http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q111/nramlow2006/randompictures011.jpg

and a few other random rifles and hunting guns.

Rocket Power
03-16-2008, 10:17 AM
i wish a had a cool ass assault rifle to show off
I wish I did to, but it's just a semi auto sporting rifle,:D made from a parts kit with some compliance parts
I don't have $14-16K for a real, full auto assault rifle.
Nice defender and Bolt rifle

Breecher_7
03-16-2008, 12:03 PM
Sell that 700 SPS and buy a 700 PSS or LTR. That SPS is a waste of money as far as tactical rifles are concerned. Its hunting rifle man.

Did someone say Assault rifles????

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c249/antoninodamato/cannonpictures008.jpg

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c249/antoninodamato/cannonpictures007.jpg

And yes, its real.....

USMARINE1108
03-16-2008, 01:10 PM
The SPS DM and the SPS Tactical are 2 different rifles.
http://www.remington.com/products/firearms/centerfire_rifles/model_700/model_700_SPS_DM.asp

http://www.remington.com/products/firearms/premier_dealer_exclusives/model_700_SPS.asp

The SPS Varmint is the same rifle as the 700PSS, just a different stock. The 700PSS has a HS precision kevlar stock with a full length aluminum bedding block while the SPS has a Houge rubber stock.

http://www.remington.com/products/firearms/centerfire_rifles/model_700/model_700_SPS_varmint.asp

http://www.remingtonle.com/rifles/700p.htm

Same goes for the 700LTR and 700SPS tactical, just different stocks. Same barrel, action, bolt, trigger etc.

http://www.remingtonle.com/rifles/700pltr.htm

http://www.remington.com/products/firearms/premier_dealer_exclusives/model_700_SPS.asp

Nothing wrong with any of the rifles if used for their intended purpose.

Breecher_7
03-16-2008, 01:30 PM
I am not a fan of the SPS, at all.

USMARINE1108
03-16-2008, 01:55 PM
I am not a fan of the SPS, at all.


LOL, I can tell! to be fair, I've only shot the PSS and LTR. Personaly, I like my PSS over the LTR because of the extra velocity gained. The weight doesn't bother me.

USMARINE1108
03-16-2008, 08:01 PM
My PSS. I bought it as a "budget" paper puncher, even took the glass off another rifle. It's got a Seekins 20MOA base and rings. I tweeked the factory trigger and that's about it. The only factory rounds that have been through this rifle are whatever Remington put through it. It likes just about any load you feed it but loves:
WCC brass
42.8 R-15 powder
FED 210 primers
Sierra Matchking 168 gr HPBTs seated to the lands.

I've shot a few 5 shot groups in the low .3MOA range with it, but it will consistantly shoot .4MOA. As long as there's no loose nut behind the trigger. I'll bed it someday, but until the barrel is shot out that's it.

Yes, the paint is just for looks, it serves no purpose at all as this rifle just sees the range.

http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/5311/dsc02089by9vi8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/5311/dsc02089by9vi8.32f98a41eb.jpg (http://g.imageshack.us/g.php?h=504&i=dsc02089by9vi8.jpg)
http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/6514/dsc02090eq5sa2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Breecher_7
03-16-2008, 08:05 PM
My PSS. I bought it as a "budget" paper puncher, even took the glass off another rifle. It's got a Seekins 20MOA base and rings. I tweeked the factory trigger and that's about it. The only factory rounds that have been through this rifle are whatever Remington put through it. It likes just about any load you feed it but loves:
WCC brass
42.8 R-15 powder
FED 210 primers
Sierra Matchking 168 gr HPBTs seated to the lands.

I've shot a few groups in the low .3MOA range with it, but it will consistantly shoot .4MOA. As long as there's no loose nut behind the trigger.

Yes, the paint is just for looks, it serves no purpose at all.

http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/5311/dsc02089by9vi8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/5311/dsc02089by9vi8.32f98a41eb.jpg (http://g.imageshack.us/g.php?h=504&i=dsc02089by9vi8.jpg)
http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/6514/dsc02090eq5sa2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Very nice, what kind of optics? Almost looks like a super sniper, very well could be wrong though. Cant beat them for the money though!

USMARINE1108
03-16-2008, 09:02 PM
Yeah, it's a super sniper. Very good glass for the money. It's a 10X mildot. The only complaint I have is the windage/elevation knobs don't have a solid "click" to them, but what are you gonna do for the price? The glass is very clear, on par with Leupolds if you ask me. Last week I shot it in the rain (under a covered bench) and the glass didn't fog up at all. It's not a high end optic, and I didn't expect that performance, but I am very happy with it. I'm thinking about picking up another one, but will most likely stick with Leupy.

Since this was a "budget paper puncher", it shares a Harris with another rifle. I think once the barrel is shot out, it will become a .260.

Breecher_7
03-17-2008, 05:44 AM
lol, for $300-$400 what do you want? I think there great for the money. I paid like $1800 for the optics on my PSG1 and my LTR and those are Swarovski's

USMARINE1108
03-17-2008, 06:12 AM
lol, for $300-$400 what do you want? I think there great for the money. I paid like $1800 for the optics on my PSG1 and my LTR and those are Swarovski's

That's the way I see it.
http://www.swfa.com/pc-4304-231-super-sniper-10x42-30mm-rifle-scope.aspx
They cut me a deal (.mil discount) so I paid around $315 shipped for mine. I was kind of apprehensive about buying one, but the great reviews and solid resale value (they go for about $275 used) talked me into it. I'm glad I did, I didn't want to get stuck with a piece of sh*t. Don't get me wrong, I've got some cheap scopes on .22s (BSA, off the shelf Powerline from walmart) but they serve their purpose great, even when they don't focus all that great or the glass is a little tinted. For $20, what do you want? I don't need a $600+ optic to hit a soda can at 50 yds with .22LR. On the flip side, the SS is closer to higher end optics then the lower end ones. Great deal.

I havent had a chance to strech the legs with this optic yet (don't have public real estate down here in SC past 600), but I expect it to perform great. I've got a trip planed to a private range about an hour and a half away that goes to 1000. I'll most likely load some 175 SMK HPBT's and some 155 Lapua Senars (should stay supersonic at 1000yds).

MurphysLaw88GT
03-17-2008, 07:47 PM
i will finish another ak47 and build my ak74 this weekend. i want to do damage to my 1919 kit, but i dont have all the coin right now

USMARINE1108
03-19-2008, 07:13 AM
i will finish another ak47 and build my ak74 this weekend. i want to do damage to my 1919 kit, but i dont have all the coin right now

Thread back on topic now!

I've got nothing planned, but I may put together a 9mm AR upper. Not too sure about that yet.

MurphysLaw88GT
03-20-2008, 04:18 PM
that would be neat....and 9mm is CHEEEEEEEP at wallyworld for winchester white box. I got a shiatload of the stuff, but do not even own anything 9x19

MurphysLaw88GT
03-23-2008, 06:39 PM
got the '74 running yesterday. no malfunctions whatsoever.

Rocket Power
03-23-2008, 10:11 PM
Sweet:thumbsup

Rocket Power
03-29-2008, 10:26 PM
Welded the shelf in the gripframe today. That is all . carry on:goof

Knyghtmare
04-14-2008, 04:35 PM
Finally got some pics of my AR build... Pretty crappy pics, I will try and take some better ones when I have more time.

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/knyghtmare/mybabym4.jpg

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/knyghtmare/knyghtarmsm4.jpg[/quote]

MurphysLaw88GT
04-14-2008, 11:13 PM
Here it is. I finished my AKS-74 build a few weeks ago, ran a few mags of 5.45 thru it without incident. It is built on a NDS-2SF, and is a matching #'s kit. Now it needs a refinish. I love how they shoot, no recoil and muzzle stays FLAT with that brake (just a little loud for bystanders that is all...) I am happy with it, now to finish other projects. Just kinda hard as it is almost summer and I would like to work on my cars too. Enjoy:thumbsup

USMARINE1108
04-15-2008, 10:16 AM
Finally got some pics of my AR build... Pretty crappy pics, I will try and take some better ones when I have more time.

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/knyghtmare/mybabym4.jpg

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/knyghtmare/knyghtarmsm4.jpg[/QUOTE]


Nice! What parts are in that thing?

Congrats, did you assemble the lower and upper? What parts are in there?

Rocket Power
04-27-2008, 06:53 PM
Welded the cocking tube on the CETME today:headbang
Just need to do the triple frame one of these days

MurphysLaw88GT
04-27-2008, 09:22 PM
Good to hear. I am looking at Imbel kits, maybe South African or a G1 if I can swing it.

Rocket Power
04-27-2008, 10:19 PM
Yeah I've had to lay off the gun stuff lately. Low$$$ , plus I have been trying to stash some money aside to work on my car.
I would love to have a G1, course then I'd have to start collecting all german battlerifles, and I ain't rich:rolf

Rocket Power
05-03-2008, 05:54 PM
Well got the triple tree soldered on, I'll pin it after I sight it in to make sure the front sight is lined up good. Still have refinishing to do and odds and ends. I hope to eventually replace the Century furniture and US mag with wood and the G3 mags I bought for $1.20 ea. But for now I need them for compliance.

Now I have something for my CETME Bayo's:rolf
http://usera.imagecave.com/vista461/cetme_build/gettingthere.jpg

USMARINE1108
05-03-2008, 09:59 PM
Well got the triple tree soldered on, I'll pin it after I sight it in to make sure the front sight is lined up good. Still have refinishing to do and odds and ends. I hope to eventually replace the Century furniture and US mag with wood and the G3 mags I bought for $1.20 ea. But for now I need them for compliance.

Now I have something for my CETME Bayo's:rolf
http://usera.imagecave.com/vista461/cetme_build/gettingthere.jpg

Looks good!

MurphysLaw88GT
05-04-2008, 07:15 PM
yay....im glad you got it together. now go in the back yard and test it hehe.

Reverend Cooper
05-04-2008, 08:10 PM
my old neighbor worked at knyght arms cool place.
I just got my ar-15 done,lazer red dot in at 100 yards it is awesome

Rocket Power
05-04-2008, 09:03 PM
yay....im glad you got it together. now go in the back yard and test it hehe.

That may screw up traffic on 894:rolf

MurphysLaw88GT
05-08-2008, 12:17 AM
That may screw up traffic on 894:rolf

just tell the cops that you just want the parts in the bolt to "settle in" after a few mag dumps and that you are trying to get a better idea of your actual bolt gap on that thing, im sure that they will understand:rolf

Rocket Power
11-14-2009, 05:41 PM
RISE OLD THREAD:goof

Well I have to move the triple frame a bit, and took it to the range. Guessed good on the tweek nicely centered groups.:headbang:headbang:headbang

This thing has such light recoil for a 7.62x51, like AK low. I love it. WIsh I would've built it when x51 was cheap:rolf
It will be in the woods at least once this deer season:thumbsup
http://photos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs034.snc3/12136_1151846719195_1318459370_398962_7263106_n.jp g

MurphysLaw88GT
11-14-2009, 07:20 PM
what is the gap at, usually when it gaps on the high side the recoil is lower.

Rocket Power
11-14-2009, 11:34 PM
Actually not that great, If I remember right, like 9 or 10 with the standard rollers, so I have room to go with the +2 and +4 's . Now I can put a finish on it. I'd like to build another off a flat someday with a more target barrel, like a poor mans PSG1 or MSG90.

MurphysLaw88GT
04-04-2010, 10:19 PM
Just got my South African contract FAL and Australian L1A1 back together. Just waiting on a few small things but I am waiting to test them out.

Crawlin
04-05-2010, 05:36 AM
PICS or BAN, hahaha

MurphysLaw88GT
04-05-2010, 11:20 AM
I will soon.