Ford Recalls 3.6 million vehicles!

[pOrk]

http://money.cnn.com/news/newsfeeds/articles/djf500/200708031615DOWJONESDJONLINE000848_FORTUNE5.htm

[Cryptic]

Ouch! $$$$$$

[Anakonda69]

good god....

[88Nightmare]

http://money.cnn.com/news/newsfeeds/articles/djf500/200708031615DOWJONESDJONLINE000848_FORTUNE5.htm

lol

[Windsors 03 Cobra]

When will the ridiculous America bashing toyota loving liberal media get over this 3 year old story.

Recalling cars from the early 90's ? I have seen this story pop up on several times on numerous forums over the last few months, if Ford is using this as a ploy to get people in old cars to come in and look at their new wares its an absurd way to do so.

[88Nightmare]

ford sucks. toyota does too.

[Car Guy]

ford sucks. toyota does too.

Opposed to what...???






:3gears::3gears::3gears:

[pickardracing]

Automobiles Suck.

[88Nightmare]

Opposed to what...???

GM

[Flight_740]

Ford is counting on most of them to be at the scrap yard by now.:rolf

[Breecher_7]

GM


Ah Mike, you are still the king of the GM nutswingers! :thumbsup

[Slow Joe]

Toyota... It'll run forever, as long as you don't mind moldings and such falling off... :rolf And weird interior rattling...

Before you comment Coop, yes I know we have to bring it in yet...

[88Nightmare]

Ah Mike, you are still the king of the GM nutswingers! :thumbsup

hey what can I say, I have yet to own a bad GM product, new or used. The Fords I and my family have owned have had their share of issues....

[Berettaspeed]

GM has the worst quality control. and you can count on the same part breaking on every model. which is not really a bad thing cause it seems thats the only thing that breaks.
Ford has bad designs and makes everything harder than it needs to be, and is overpriced.
Dodge can't build shit anymore and keeps on blowing trannies.
Hondas, if you beat the they burn oil, otherwise last pretty long. over priced. and people never fix their idling problems
yotas- the car falls apart before the engine does.
mitsu-tick like no othet. seems they all leak oil and vacuum leaks all the time
nissan- again ticking and over priced. the most overpriced asian import IMO
german cars.. all leak oil. and computer and wiring problems

on every car seems most things are made in mexico or china.

[Rocket Power]

We had it done to our truck last year, only takes a few minutes no biggie.

[Breecher_7]

Dodge can't build shit anymore and keeps on blowing trannies.





Cant agree with ya here. I beat the piss out of my 05 Hemi Ram for 35K miles, 90mph 110 degree driving when I lived in california, Constant towing more then the truck was rated for, full throttle, balls to the wall everywhere i went with that thing and the transmission never had as much as a Hiccup. I firmly believe that Dodge has solved there transmission problems.

As far as GM's quality control, i couldnt agree more........It sucks.
!

[sloLs1]

We had it done to our truck last year, only takes a few minutes no biggie.

yea those and most other recalls usually dont require much time to fix. the company usually trys to find the easiest cheapest way to fix the problems.

but still an engine fire would be real bad!!!

[Windsors 03 Cobra]

I would surely say the addition of Daimler to Chrysler sure helped them get their tranny woes fixed up in short order, I dont follow Chrysler that much but I sure havent heard of many big pattern failures on any of their late models.

GM on the other hand and that dexcool garbage and mickey mouse gasket design* has really soured me on some of their products. I have done so many lower intake gaskets on anything from 60*V6's to Vortec 350's, while doing so is good $ for me and not a problem if it happened to my car but for the average consumer who could possibly lose an engine and have a huge expense or a junk 4 year old car on their hands over a coolant leak is just ridiculous, late 80's early 90's GM's=Bulletproof, late 90's early 00's GM=Rubbish.

I love all of the late GM pushrod V8's they are great engines but what GM did to my beloved N/A 3.8 fuel pincher with those mickey mouse gaskets and plastic intake was just a travesty. Ditto for ford and their junk cracking plastic intakes and 3.8 headgasket debacle.

I gotta say too GM truck engine choices, interiors and instrumentation blow Fords out of the water, but I think the Ford truck has a better exterior look and a much better 4x4 system on the HD's with a SFA, manual Hubs and manual T-case, if so equipped of course. :D


*(most brands use thses crappy style gaskets now)

[Slow Joe]

Ditto for ford and their junk cracking plastic intakes and 3.8 headgasket debacle.


The Ford 3.8 Issue (at least in the RWD Cars aka Mustang) were only for '94/'95 and Headgaskets... All the cars were given extended warranties, and most were replaced/fixed... The best of my knowledge

[Waver]

It is funy, every time there is a recall on a ford product someone has to bring attention to it, however many other recalls get swept under the rug....what gives with that?


And what do you mean ford is over priced? they are thousands cheeper than a equilly equiped chevy with better rebates and financing.....dont believe me???? Back in 02 my buddy bought an 02 zr2 that after financing and extended warrenty cost 35k.....a guy that I worked with got him self an 02 f150 fx4 equilly equiped with the extended warrenty for 23k......mmmmm what would you rather pay? I can come up with more if I need to

[Al]

Adding a fuse on a Ford does not sound like an expensive recall.


GM has the worst quality control. and you can count on the same part breaking on every model. which is not really a bad thing cause it seems thats the only thing that breaks.
Ford has bad designs and makes everything harder than it needs to be, and is overpriced.
Dodge can't build shit anymore and keeps on blowing trannies.
Hondas, if you beat the they burn oil, otherwise last pretty long. over priced. and people never fix their idling problems
yotas- the car falls apart before the engine does.
mitsu-tick like no othet. seems they all leak oil and vacuum leaks all the time
nissan- again ticking and over priced. the most overpriced asian import IMO
german cars.. all leak oil. and computer and wiring problems

on every car seems most things are made in mexico or china.

Not all german cars leak oil...some burn it. And about the computer, all it takes is a $30 sensor to go and the dash lights up like a christmas tree.


How about this: what is a good car to buy?
I usually say "honda, nissan, or toyota"

[sloLs1]

regardless to who's company has more recalls and problems...


i just look at it as job security!






as long as the forign car companys dont take over, but i think its too late to pray

[88Nightmare]

its all mechanical stuff designed by humans, things are bound to fail, break, or **** up somehow some way sooner or later. The problems that seperate themselves from other problems are the widespread ones. The ones that are extremely costly, cause a lot of downtime, or are never properly 100% corrected. GM had a problem with the intake gaskets, primarily on the 3.1's and 3.4's. Solution? Use better gaskets, and do the job correctly. So many of those intake gaskets are replaced more then once because someone probably didnt do it right the first time, and used crappy gaskets. GM's dex cool problem.... solution? Flush it and put the standard green glycol back in it. Our Sable on the otherhand has gone through more problems then I can count. A/C compressor seized up TWICE in one year, we had to replace the power steering pump, new distributer, and the exhaust rotted out after only 70k miles. My brothers F150 had the serpentine belt tensioner decide to break off from the engine up in Green Bay. I had a 98 V6 mustang with an overdrive issue in the trans. My 97 GT had a fuel pump issue... somethin inside the steering column... My 98 SHO was about to experience cam gear failure, along with EVERY other Gen3 SHO. It also ended up experiencing trans failure after I sold it to a guy I know. The only Ford Ive owned that was almost trouble free was a 95 Escort. Only issue it had was with the intake gaskets, they broke down and got sucked into the engine, caused a vacume leak.

[Waver]

When it comes down to it, all cars are junk from the factory, that is why we "enhance" them to make them better

[88Nightmare]

werd. but for those who dont enhance their shit, and are dumb as shit when it comes to cars, those are the ones who ***** about recalls. Thats the reason why the media has to blast any American car company when they come out with a recall, but hump Toyotas leg every chance they get

[Waver]

Right.....seems to me like Toyota has had more recalls than ford or chevy lately, and howcome we never hear anything about honda?

[pickardracing]

GM has the worst quality control. and you can count on the same part breaking on every model. which is not really a bad thing cause it seems thats the only thing that breaks.
Ford has bad designs and makes everything harder than it needs to be, and is overpriced.
Dodge can't build shit anymore and keeps on blowing trannies.
Hondas, if you beat the they burn oil, otherwise last pretty long. over priced. and people never fix their idling problems
yotas- the car falls apart before the engine does.
mitsu-tick like no othet. seems they all leak oil and vacuum leaks all the time
nissan- again ticking and over priced. the most overpriced asian import IMO
german cars.. all leak oil. and computer and wiring problems

on every car seems most things are made in mexico or china.

This is quite possibly the biggest load of shit I've ever read.

[Waver]

This is quite possibly the biggest load of shit I've ever read.
gee, you are being generous today.....what, the new job slowing you down?

[88Nightmare]

neuwave...


it is a FACT that last year Toyota recalled more vehicles then Ford, Dodge, and GM combined. Just research it.

[pickardracing]

gee, you are being generous today.....what, the new job slowing you down?

I'm in a reasonably decent mood today. :durr

[pickardracing]

neuwave...


it is a FACT that last year Toyota recalled more vehicles then Ford, Dodge, and GM combined. Just research it.

OMFG THATs IMP0SS1BL3!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111111111!!!!!!!!!!

Blame your liberal media for you not knowing it.

[Waver]

neuwave...


it is a FACT that last year Toyota recalled more vehicles then Ford, Dodge, and GM combined. Just research it.


I know......wait....I thought Toyota and japaneeze cars were so uber great....

[88Nightmare]

OMFG THATs IMP0SS1BL3!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111111111!!!!!!!!!!

Blame your liberal media for you not knowing it.

i already knew it.

[Berettaspeed]

This is quite possibly the biggest load of shit I've ever read.

what?? you must not come across many cars. or see and work on different cars. why B.S?? every car has its problems im just pointing out the most common from what i have come across.

and to answer why i said what i did,,

fords being overpiced( they tend to be higher than GM or chrysler. maybe not now because they need sales, but base models don't count. its just to real you in for the kill.)

German cars leaking oil.. you gotta be kidding me. just about every BMW and audi i see has oil seeping. maybe not flying out, but everywhere they seep. cam covers, timing belt covers. cam tensioner gasket thing (LOL) OMG.
most of the time the ECUs get wet and rust the wires and such. due to being by the wipers. not the best idea so its bound to happen. benz seem to go through suspension parts and BMW.

dodgees trannies.. maybe the newer trucks got better, but the dodges where over powered for the trans and drivtrain in most cases. i think thats why they had problems. now i dunno. i don't see newer cars 04+. im starting to get more and more 02 and 03 now. im about 3 yrs behind.

lets see..... oh late 80s early 90s GM... yes. they had the best engines at that time. at least thats when GM made their engines the best. GM keeps cheaping out on things and are doing it to themselfs. 3800s are this shit! early 2.8mpfi and 3.1mpfi last!

[nismodave]

Ford = Garbage

[Slow Joe]

Ford = Garbage

Oh shut up Dave,

Mazda 6 = Ford Fusion... Same engine, trans, chasis...

[Rocket Power]

3800s are the second best GM V6 next to the GN engines! 2.8mpfi and 3.1mpfi like to leak coolant out the intakes

Fixed:rolf

[nismodave]

Fusion based on the 6 .....Not the other way around.

[Waver]

fords being overpiced( they tend to be higher than GM or chrysler. maybe not now because they need sales, but base models don't count. its just to real you in for the kill.)




Since when is a fx4 a base model....lets see fuly loaded fx4 was in the 20's 4 years ago, and now it is at like 31.......fully loaded chevy or dodge, I think is at like 34/35 k....ford is a bit cheeper.

[Slow Joe]

Fusion based on the 6 .....Not the other way around.

Ford Owns Mazda... Mazda don't own Ford...

[Berettaspeed]

Fixed:rolf

the 3100 SFI did... the 2.8/ 3.1 were more oil leak from GMs lazy ass not to remover the distributer hole. leaky o-ring crap. i have not heard of many coolant leaks other than the TB hoses craping out. oh ansd GMs ignition boxs are garbage. those POS.. i hate it when they die.


LOL

[Lash]

Constant towing more then the truck was rated for, full throttle, balls to the wall everywhere i went
!


No wonder why you couldn't get over 14mpg...lol.

[Waver]

the 3100 SFI did... the 2.8/ 3.1 were more oil leak from GMs lazy ass not to remover the distributer hole. leaky o-ring crap. i have not heard of many coolant leaks other than the TB hoses craping out. oh ansd GMs ignition boxs are garbage. those POS.. i hate it when they die.


LOL
Freeze plugs, intake gaskets.........there are more for the 2.8 and the 3.1 that I have seen

[Berettaspeed]

Since when is a fx4 a base model....lets see fuly loaded fx4 was in the 20's 4 years ago, and now it is at like 31.......fully loaded chevy or dodge, I think is at like 34/35 k....ford is a bit cheeper.

ford as well as most companies advertise the base models.. you are using one vehicle.. look at the others... they tend to be cheaper, but then add options.. oh boy hang on.. your wallet just goes emtpy.

all ford has it the pickup and the mustang. thats it.

[Berettaspeed]

Freeze plugs, intake gaskets.........there are more for the 2.8 and the 3.1 that I have seen

freeze plugs?? thats usually a high mileage car that has those probelms?? hence a good long lasting enigne.

what intake for the 2.8/3.1s?? not coolant.. 3.1s had pushrod issues and cam/ oiling issues.. but again quality control i feel was at fault. my 2.8 must be one of the lucky ones. LOL.

[Lash]

Back in 02 my buddy bought an 02 zr2 that after financing and extended warrenty cost 35k


There is NO WAY that is true. Brand new they stated at just over $20k with a fully optioned one being just over $26k....and that's not even including any GM rebates or special offers (which they ALWAYS have.)


Besides.....the ZR-2 would stomp a mud hole on a '02 F-150 FX4 on the trails.

[Waver]

ford as well as most companies advertise the base models.. you are using one vehicle.. look at the others... they tend to be cheaper, but then add options.. oh boy hang on.. your wallet just goes emtpy.

all ford has it the pickup and the mustang. thats it.
umm nope.....compair three equil level vehicles and you will see that they are all priced the same fully loaded, however you can get better incentives on the fords