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BAD LS1
07-16-2007, 10:55 AM
Gonna try and sell the monte as well, maybe get a fullsize or something yet.

2006 Monte Carlo SS:

-5.3L V8 w/ DOD
-25 mpg avg on highway
-4 spd auto
-24,000 Miles
-1 Owner, Clean title
-Exterior is damn near perfect
-Interior is flawless, still smells like new
-Victory red,solid exterior
-Graphite Leather interior
-Onstar
-MP3 single CD player
-fully loaded except for factory XM and sunroof
-Tires are in very good shape
-4300K vision bulbs brand HID headlights
-35 % tint

Intense fenderwell intake, ORDP, 1.8 ratio rockers, 918 valve springs, 160 thermo, my tune, intense shift kit. on drag radials runs 13.1 @ 105

Quickest LS4 powered W-body in the country to date.

$21,500 OBO

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Flicktitty
07-16-2007, 12:07 PM
good luck with the sale! badass car.

Poncho
07-18-2007, 04:55 AM
Every lb of boost is worth 7% increase in power if the air is not heated above ambient.

Simple math: 10 PSI (24.7BAR) = 70% increase over where you started N/A


Doing my math............

Going off your sig if you had say 100hp

1lb - 100hp + 7%(7) = 107hp
2lb - 107hp + 7%(7.49) = 114.49
3lb - 114.49 + 7% (8.014) = 122.50
4lb - 122.50 + 7% (8.57) = 131.07
5lb - 131.07 + 7% (9.17) = 140.25
6lb - 140.25 + 7% (9.81) = 150.07
7lb - 150.07 + 7% (10.50) = 160.57
8lb - 160.57 + 7% (11.24) = 171.81
9lb - 171.81 + 7% (12.02) = 183.84
10lb - 183.84 + 7% (12.86) = 196.71

In that case the variable added 96.7% hp w/ 10psi

Figuring your car made maybe a little generous 400hp NA @ the crank adding 10psi would achieve 786hp
786hp = 96.5% increase The factor in that case pretty much stays constant, but your calculations were actually low, not factoring the increase while staying 7%, the actual factor of increase grows exponentially with each pound.

furthermore if you did actually shoot for 15psi say....

175% increase with only 5PSI more. Thats the nice thing about stuff increasing exponentially.

How does 1100hp sound to you?

However, I'd imagine it would be complete hell for longevity to have 15psi on a car that has high compression to begin with, not to mention air temps would be damn near impossible to keep ambiant while squeezing them down to that much, on top of the actual compression that'll be done down the line. I'd imagine 4" piping @ minimum would be needed. So you would likely need more boost to see `1100, unless you have Nitrous in the line or liquid nitrogen just for the cooling effect.

BAD LS1
07-18-2007, 07:00 AM
Doing my math............

Going off your sig if you had say 100hp

1lb - 100hp + 7%(7) = 107hp
2lb - 107hp + 7%(7.49) = 114.49
3lb - 114.49 + 7% (8.014) = 122.50
4lb - 122.50 + 7% (8.57) = 131.07
5lb - 131.07 + 7% (9.17) = 140.25
6lb - 140.25 + 7% (9.81) = 150.07
7lb - 150.07 + 7% (10.50) = 160.57
8lb - 160.57 + 7% (11.24) = 171.81
9lb - 171.81 + 7% (12.02) = 183.84
10lb - 183.84 + 7% (12.86) = 196.71

In that case the variable added 96.7% hp w/ 10psi

Figuring your car made maybe a little generous 400hp NA @ the crank adding 10psi would achieve 786hp
786hp = 96.5% increase The factor in that case pretty much stays constant, but your calculations were actually low, not factoring the increase while staying 7%, the actual factor of increase grows exponentially with each pound.

furthermore if you did actually shoot for 15psi say....

175% increase with only 5PSI more. Thats the nice thing about stuff increasing exponentially.

How does 1100hp sound to you?

However, I'd imagine it would be complete hell for longevity to have 15psi on a car that has high compression to begin with, not to mention air temps would be damn near impossible to keep ambiant while squeezing them down to that much, on top of the actual compression that'll be done down the line. I'd imagine 4" piping @ minimum would be needed. So you would likely need more boost to see `1100, unless you have Nitrous in the line or liquid nitrogen just for the cooling effect.



WTF?:durr

390RWHP x .70 (10 psi or 70% increase in power) = 273HP For a grand total of 663 HP best case scenario.

and for 15 psi i come with a 105% increase. So 390 x 1.05 = 410 HP increase, which would result in 800 RWHP best case. Now with all the losses figure in the mid 700's

Count on a 1% loss for every 10 degrees you heat the air over ambient too.

Why is this on this thread again?

And unless im doing something completley wrong the formula makes sence.

Holeshot
07-18-2007, 07:10 AM
Nice car Tom Hope you get what your looking for.

Poncho
07-18-2007, 12:06 PM
eh maybe I was overthinking it, at any rate look @ the post time... I was wanted to go to bed. Bump for a nice family car.

6forwardgears
07-18-2007, 01:21 PM
Tom showed me this car last night, it's bad ass!! :thumbsup Extremely fast, looks great, sounds great, and it has a great interior. Also has the roomiest back seats I've ever seen. :devil

Prince Valiant
07-18-2007, 01:58 PM
WTF?:durr

390RWHP x .70 (10 psi or 70% increase in power) = 273HP For a grand total of 663 HP best case scenario.

and for 15 psi i come with a 105% increase. So 390 x 1.05 = 410 HP increase, which would result in 800 RWHP best case. Now with all the losses figure in the mid 700's

Count on a 1% loss for every 10 degrees you heat the air over ambient too.

Why is this on this thread again?

And unless im doing something completley wrong the formula makes sence.
Another easy way is for every 14.7 (1bar) psi over ambient pressure ~ 100% increase in power. Express the amount of boost divided by 14.7 and that's your multiplication percentage so

(X psi/14.7)= % increase in power

YHP + ({X psi/14.7}*YHP)= New HP *approximate*

Tom, since the H3's now come with a LS v8, why not wait until they inevitably put a v8 in the Colorado's?

88Nightmare
07-18-2007, 02:11 PM
way to shit up the ad guys :D

Poncho
07-18-2007, 03:42 PM
See this is how Doc Oc f-ed up and killed a bunch of people.

Just call me doc oc.

BAD LS1
07-18-2007, 04:53 PM
What wait the H3 comes with an 8 now? Hmmmm.....

Karps TA
07-18-2007, 05:10 PM
http://www.pickuptruck.com/html/news/chevrolet/colorado/v808.html

Poncho
07-18-2007, 05:18 PM
Finally a use for that LS6 cam. Tom.

BAD LS1
07-18-2007, 05:29 PM
Wow im getting a colorado witha 5.3 then in fall

hrsp
07-18-2007, 05:43 PM
sweet car!!!!! FREE BUMP


but all that math equations made me dizzy...lol

lilws6
07-18-2007, 06:10 PM
ugh math homework lol

Poncho
07-23-2007, 03:52 PM
Tom showed me this car last night, it's bad ass!! :thumbsup Extremely fast, looks great, sounds great, and it has a great interior. Also has the roomiest back seats I've ever seen. :devil

eeeewwww

BAD LS1
07-23-2007, 03:57 PM
eeeewwww

lol So nicole should dump the 6 pot and get this... its red at least!

Poncho
07-23-2007, 04:03 PM
Too much upsidedown yet, we tried to upgrade to an '07 Torch Red GT last week. same car, bigger motor. I'm trying to talk my buddy that likes Monte Carlos into your car, but he wants an Econo-Car.

BAD LS1
07-23-2007, 04:09 PM
Too much upsidedown yet, we tried to upgrade to an '07 Torch Red GT last week. same car, bigger motor. I'm trying to talk my buddy that likes Monte Carlos into your car, but he wants an Econo-Car.

it gets decent mileage if you dont beat on it... You can get a used 06' SS for less with avg miles for a year old....

Poncho
07-23-2007, 04:13 PM
I'll talk to him he once said he wanted a truck too, but now I think he's leaning towards a Caliber or a Homo High Rider.