Avalible power from LS1 or LT1's

[flyin_blue_egg]

I'm thinking about dropping a LS or LT in a project car of mine....just wondering how much power you can get out of either of these engines, what mod's you've done or seen done and about how much it costs...

Thanks for all input

[88Nightmare]

go with an LS motor. LSX ftw

[flyin_blue_egg]

^^^what power #'s have you seen out of LSx engines...and for what prices?

[Mudd Runner]

Lt1 Ftmfw!!!!!

[flyin_blue_egg]

ok...before this thread turns into people just telling me which engine to go with...im just looking for poss. power numbers and how much it costs

[88Nightmare]

LSX is pricey. LS1 can be had for relatively inexpensive and you can push 400-500hp out of them safely id imagine. you could probably find a long block LS1 for maybe $1,500 or less?

[flyin_blue_egg]

i was just searching i found some ls1's for about $1500 and the mounting sh!t from hinson super cars (the only place i know of) totals out to about $1000-$2000 so for about $5000 max i could have a 400hp 240...as opposed to what i was originally going to do which would have cost me atleast twice that much, and IMO wouldn't have been as cool

only thing that sucks is that i either have to modify the subframe myself, or ship it to hinson in AL....anybody good at DYI stuff?

[88Nightmare]

wait till ron gets in on this thread and he starts preaching his LTjuan nonsense :D

[flyin_blue_egg]

im pretty set i think on the LSX, mainly b/c i haven't found any swap kits to put the LT1 in a 240. from what i understand you'd have to get the mounts and the drive shaft custom made...which we all know costs $$$$

[Flicktitty]

I'd say LS1. a little bit better design then the LT1 and is making gobbs of hp. For the slight cost more it would be better in the long run imo
Going fast Via LS1tech.... (http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=361959)

Guy's asking how to get 450HP (http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=689351)

240SX with a LSX swap (http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=564082)

another 240sx with LS swap (http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=565461)

Yet another LS Swapped 240sx (http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=593767)

And then as you learned by now check LS1 Tech (www.LS1tech.com)

And the Hinson site you've already found.
Hinson Supercars (http://www.hinsonsupercars.com/shopCars.htm)

Just wait for Tom (bad Ls1) and then Ron (Juicedimp) to put in there 2 cents

[flyin_blue_egg]

^^^ well flick i've mad up my mind....i've been thinkin bout this since me and you talked about it...bye-bye CA18...hello 500+Hp in a 240 for cheap

[Flicktitty]

i was just searching i found some ls1's for about $1500 and the mounting sh!t from hinson super cars (the only place i know of) totals out to about $1000-$2000 so for about $5000 max i could have a 400hp 240...as opposed to what i was originally going to do which would have cost me atleast twice that much, and IMO wouldn't have been as cool

only thing that sucks is that i either have to modify the subframe myself, or ship it to hinson in AL....anybody good at DYI stuff?

Get the Kit, Talk To Nismodave, and have him talk to Don at All About Speed in Milwaukee he has a 2JZ swapped 240sx. that he did.

If nothing else i know Shawn and Steve down at A-spec would do it. there doing them to Rx-7's now

[88Nightmare]

dude, the battle between Tom (king of LS* cars) and ron (king of LT1 cars) is like the Capulet and Montagues fued in Romeo and Juliet :rolf

[Flicktitty]

dude, the battle between Tom (king of LS* cars) and ron (king of LT1 cars) is like the Capulet and Montagues fued in Romeo and Juliet :rolf

LMAO damn straight

[Crawlin]

Or me :) I'm still the fastest LS1 till someone tops it ;) Come on Tommy, yours will be done soon!!

You can get decent power with stock stuff, just have to question reliability out of the LSx stuff. People have done 1000rwhp w/ stock aluminum block and stock crank cryoed in a forced induction setup. Not really recommended on the crank, but it's been done a couple times. Even up there in the 800rwhp range with stock crank on a nitrous setup.

Head/Cam cars with radical setups are about the 450-500rwhp range right now. 402/408 strokers seem to be doing 500-500rwhp range. It is all dependant on how radical a combo you want.

How about you tell us what your budget is, and we'll tell you how far you COULD possibly go.

Remember, sure you can get an engine for $1500, but then you'd need all the wiring harness BS and sensors and coil packs, etc...

Now if you go and do the carb conversion stuff that electronics are still up around $800

[flyin_blue_egg]

as far as a budget...i really can't even take a guess right now.....im on 20 and still in school...im just weighing my options and seeing how much i need to save....really what im looking at doing is just getting the car moving (i've had it sitting at a friends shop for 2 years now)...and then slowly making it faster and doing the cosmetic shit i want to do....

[juicedimpss]

how fast are you trying to go,and how much do you have to spend?

lsx will be a bit more pricey than the lt1 stuff.
most average guys are more than content with the capabilities of the lt1 when it is warmed up mildly.
beyond that its my opinion the next step is to skip the lsx and jump into manhood of BBC

[flyin_blue_egg]

how fast are you trying to go,and how much do you have to spend?

lsx will be a bit more pricey than the lt1 stuff.
most average guys are more than content with the capabilities of the lt1 when it is warmed up mildly.
beyond that its my opinion the next step is to skip the lsx and jump into manhood of BBC

two problems with your opinion...first i've found no ready made swap kits to put an LT1 in the car...and i don't quite have to money to do a BBC...im only 20 though so maybe later in life

[Flicktitty]

two problems with your opinion...first i've found no ready made swap kits to put an LT1 in the car...and i don't quite have to money to do a BBC...im only 20 though so maybe later in life

there are only 2 BBC'd 240sx's in the US that i know of. and neither are anywhere near street friendly. the motor is pushed so far back, full custom chassie made, so yeah out of the question.

I say LS1 for the fact that it is pretty easy to mod, And there are swap kits for it already, and it's easy to find parts and help with them.

or go 2JZGTTE if you want something to go fast ;)

[flyin_blue_egg]

or go 2JZGTTE if you want something to go fast ;)

that would be interesting....but the cost involved in that would be high i bet....esp. b/c its not like im gonna be able to go to a junk yard and find a 2JZ like i'll be able to find a LSX

[juicedimpss]

lt1 will be the same as any sbc as far as motor mount locations and oil pan

[flyin_blue_egg]

lt1 will be the same as any sbc as far as motor mount locations and oil pan

are you sure about that...i was searching and the only thing that i found a mount kit for was the LSX engines...from what i've read if you do a LTX you have to custom make the mounts.....if you know of something, post it up

[Flicktitty]

Now that i think about it, wasen't there a LT1 with like 396 Cubes on here the guy went by the name Ares in a 240sx?

[Flicktitty]

Now that i think about it, wasen't there a LT1 with like 396 Cubes on here the guy went by the name Ares in a 240sx?

God damn i'm good.

240SS (http://nissaninfiniticlub.net/photopost/showgallery.php/ppuser/702/cat/500)

[Flicktitty]

are you sure about that...i was searching and the only thing that i found a mount kit for was the LSX engines...from what i've read if you do a LTX you have to custom make the mounts.....if you know of something, post it up

2JZ Swap (http://www.2jzswap.com/)
"2JZ POWER" (http://www.2jzpower.com/)
240SX with 2JZ (http://www.cardomain.com/ride/751542)

[BAD LS1]

Crawlin FTW by .1 tenth.

But i got some full weight, stock CI, cam only, 200 shot,6 speed car that did those times. I think constitues mine making more power at the time perhaps?.

Ever since GM dicontinued OEM LT1 parts, i heard they are going to recall every LT1 on the planet so that they can be scraped and made into iron block LSx's and so they cant stain drive ways from oil drips, not run from opti issues, Or be known as the low point in chevy small block history. True story.

[88Nightmare]

^ O snap

[Flicktitty]

Ever since GM dicontinued OEM LT1 parts, i heard they are going to recall every LT1 on the planet so that they can be scraped and made into iron block LSx's and so they cant stain drive ways from oil drips, not run from opti issues, Or be known as the low point in chevy small block history. True story.

:rolf :thumbsup :rolf
New sig
:rolf :thumbsup :rolf

[Crawlin]

Crawlin FTW by .1 tenth.

But i got some full weight, stock CI, cam only, 200 shot,6 speed car that did those times. I think constitues mine making more power at the time perhaps?.

Ever since GM dicontinued OEM LT1 parts, i heard they are going to recall every LT1 on the planet so that they can be scraped and made into iron block LSx's and so they cant stain drive ways from oil drips, not run from opti issues, Or be known as the low point in chevy small block history. True story.


10.02 VS 10.19?

i'd be interested to know what yours did weigh when it raced.

probably did, that extra 50 shot from yours to mine i bet helped.

but then again, i'm not into dyno racing, so who knows? :confused

[juicedimpss]

dyno racing is for homos.

[Windsors 03 Cobra]

After seeing this in a hot rod at work I have a jones for an old G Body or maybe Fox Body :)

LQ4 Short Block - 480 HP For $3,775
All It Takes Is A Boneyard 6.0L Truck Engine With A Mild Hydraulic Cam, A 750 Holley Carb, And Headers To Get Some Serious Horsepower

PARTS LIST
DESCRIPTION PN SOURCE PRICE
LQ4, iron 6.0L, used N/A LKQ $1,100.00
GMPP carb intake 88958675 Scoggin-Dickey 369.75
Fel-Pro intake gasket 1312-1 Summit Racing 22.69
Fel-Pro header gasket 1438 Summit Racing 26.36
GMPP Hot cam kit 12480033 Scoggin-Dickey 429.95
MSD ignition conversion 6010 Summit Racing 303.88
MSD extension harness 60101 Summit Racing 178.95
Carb, Holley 750 0-4779 0-4779C 415.95
Headers, Kooks, 131/44 65005 Kooks Headers 864.90
Pennzoil platinum oil 5W-30 Amazon 29.95
Fram oil filter 4967 Amazon 4.95
Total $3,747.33


http://www.carcraft.com/projectbuild/116_0704_lq4_short_block/index.html

[BAD LS1]

Dyno racing aside, The 347 had alot more odds stacked against it to do what it did. When talking low 10's 50 hp would be lucky to make a tenth or two diff.

Mine simply worked as well as it did because i figured out how to make it come out hard and the spray to work the hardest it could for me.

[juicedimpss]

Dyno racing aside, The 347 had alot more odds stacked against it to do what it did. When talking low 10's 50 hp would be lucky to make a tenth or two diff.

Mine simply worked as well as it did because i figured out how to make it come out hard and the spray to work the hardest it could for me.

you really needed a 2 step rev box..........

[BAD LS1]

you really needed a 2 step rev box..........

Yeah bought one already for this year

[juicedimpss]

Yeah bought one already for this year

id bet that would have shaved a tenth from the 60'

[Crawlin]

Dyno racing aside, The 347 had alot more odds stacked against it to do what it did. When talking low 10's 50 hp would be lucky to make a tenth or two diff.

Mine simply worked as well as it did because i figured out how to make it come out hard and the spray to work the hardest it could for me.

No doubt about it. I have no problems saying your combo was worked for every last inch compared to mine

[turbogarrett]

The ls1/t56 initial cost will be 2x what lt1 combos are selling for, BUT the lsx will weigh 80 lbs less and a nice head/cam package can get you 450+ rwhp. Fwiw I paid 4300 for my '01 ls1/t56 pullout w/ 45k miles in '03.

I added bolt ons, a used cam, some budget 5.3 heads and of course some tuning by Tom, the car consistently traps 124 mph, retains 50/50 weight balance, gets 27+ mpg on the freeway and never needs race fuel - what more can you ask for:D

[BAD LS1]

The ls1/t56 initial cost will be 2x what lt1 combos are selling for, BUT the lsx will weigh 80 lbs less and a nice head/cam package can get you 450+ rwhp. Fwiw I paid 4300 for my '01 ls1/t56 pullout w/ 45k miles in '03.

I added bolt ons, a used cam, some budget 5.3 heads and of course some tuning by Tom, the car consistently traps 124 mph, retains 50/50 weight balance, gets 27+ mpg on the freeway and never needs race fuel - what more can you ask for:D

124 mph, that baby goes! I remember it being quite blinding when i tuned it, but i need another refresher ride soon hehe

[2SLOW]

Here is a long block for sale? (LS1) I have bought things from this guy before he is a straight up guy.


http://www.chitownracing.com/forums/showthread.php?t=72066

[Poncho]

LSx for the win.

can't complain about an easy 400+lb/ft of torque down low holding on thru near the whole damn rev range, and well over 475hp peak hp, peaking at 6k or a little higher on a "mild" setup.

[BadAzzGTA89]

I say L98 TPI FTMFW:goof

[Poncho]

I say L98 TPI FTMFW:goof

running completely outta power by 4200 for the win! :goof

[BadAzzGTA89]

running completely outta power by 4200 for the win! :goof

Not if ya build them right:shades

[GTSLOW]

Ls1 Ftw! f00k L98

[Poncho]

Not if ya build them right:shades

modded LT1 intake FTW

[BadAzzGTA89]

Fu#ck you guys im going home:devil
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[Flicktitty]

Some videos i found well crusing street fire with LS1's in 240SX
Head and Cam'd LS1 in a 240sx (http://videos.streetfire.net/search/Ls1+240sx/0/a6516b3e-5271-4a25-b70b-98ce0180f017.htm)
LS1 240SX on Pinks Part 1 (http://videos.streetfire.net/search/Ls1+240sx/0/70825e54-e3fa-43bc-9d77-983b00218453.htm)
LS1 240SX on Pinks Part 2 (http://videos.streetfire.net/search/Ls1+240sx/0/19df7060-6094-49f6-af32-983b0022b9aa.htm)
Turbo LS1 in a Chyrsler conquest (http://videos.streetfire.net/search/LS1/0/12a2acba-1f97-465e-99fc-990d00c828a5.htm)
LS1 240sx by Hinson (http://videos.streetfire.net/search/LS1+nissan/0/29a5846d-4a09-4aa6-ab55-4b4ff615f991.htm)

[Poncho]

Fu#ck you guys im going home:devil
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:rolf :rolf high-5 or something like that for you. :violin :rockwoot:

[flyin_blue_egg]

The ls1/t56 initial cost will be 2x what lt1 combos are selling for, BUT the lsx will weigh 80 lbs less and a nice head/cam package can get you 450+ rwhp. Fwiw I paid 4300 for my '01 ls1/t56 pullout w/ 45k miles in '03.

I added bolt ons, a used cam, some budget 5.3 heads and of course some tuning by Tom, the car consistently traps 124 mph, retains 50/50 weight balance, gets 27+ mpg on the freeway and never needs race fuel - what more can you ask for:D


now that's what im fvcking talking about!!! i don't think for the prices of them i've found so far you could ask for to much more!!!

[flyin_blue_egg]

Here is a long block for sale? (LS1) I have bought things from this guy before he is a straight up guy.


http://www.chitownracing.com/forums/showthread.php?t=72066


thanks alex...but im currently just shopping my options and seeing how much money i have to save up...not in the market right now