help me with a car selection

[1quickgtp]

well everyone, the GTP is getting to be a real peice of shit lately, I have to spend 40 bux on gas every 2-3 days...so therefore its nickle and dimeing me. its not reliable, it rattles like no other ( its GM haha )

im looking for something with the following:

~manual 5 or 6 spd

~rear wheel preferably but I guess front is ok since thats 90% of cars these days

~GOOD HANDLING, im done with drag racing, im going to be more auto crossing this year!!!!

~10-15k range

~moonroof, nice interior, nice sound.

~not TOOOO expensive to mod.

~something somewhat newer ( I have a 97 now )

let me know what you guess have in mind,

thanks

[Lash]

IBTLS1CROWD

:thumbsup

[88Nightmare]

does it have to be a daily driver or is it a toy?

[1quickgtp]

daily driver. an toy :)

[TheBlueSupra]

S2000 should meet all of the above rear wheel drive, 6 speed, handles well and can be had for your price range.

[RanJer]

S2000 should meet all of the above rear wheel drive, 6 speed, handles well and can be had for your price range.

Or maybe an IS300? Not sure, that may be a little over the budget..

[88Nightmare]

IS300 with a turbo? hmmmm....

[1quickgtp]

Or maybe an IS300? Not sure, that may be a little over the budget..

haha if you seen my daily email ( is300lover@gmail.com ). ive been a HUGE fan of those cars before it was produced!!!

BUT the huge kicker is, insurance for me on that car is 376 bux a month :rolf F THAT. :(

[1quickgtp]

Or maybe an IS300? Not sure, that may be a little over the budget..

but the bad thing about is....I need a backseat!!! :crying

[88Nightmare]

IS300's have backseats :confused

[GTSLOW]

01-02 F-Body FTW!

[1quickgtp]

IS300's have backseats :confused

I cant afford the car and the outrageous insurance either thats why.

and I DO NOT want a camaro or trans am ( Im a fan of LS series whereas I have one, but a maro or TA just isnt me )

[PureSound15]

G35/350z? I'm not sure what they go for used though.

[88Nightmare]

G35's are nice cars.

[1quickgtp]

those 2 are still mid 20's to low 30's

[Poncho]

rice burner.

or keep saving for a GT-slow.

[SSDude]

rice burner.

or keep saving for a GT-slow.

could sell him yours cheap

[nismodave]

Mazda Miata.......But no back seat.

[RedGSX]

Not sure your insurance will be any cheaper with a performance car of any type if an IS300 is 376 dollars a month. Better off buying something slow and unmodifiable and earning a clean record to lower your insurance so you can get a fun car later.

just my 2cents...

[88Nightmare]

you could always get a V6 mustang like slowjoe :D

[Poncho]

fwiw, the GTslow is cheaper to insure than a grand prix GTP.

if I sold mine, i'd be wanting mid 20's anyway.

[1quickgtp]

personally, I think GTO's are pieces of shit, whats the point of owning a mutt of a car ( cavalier, grand am grand prix ) mix...f that

and its not JUST my record. look up the is300, its the 2nd HIGHEST insuranced vehicle on the market. thats over highend bmws, benz, yada yada yada,


so I dont know what to get

whats a good handling MANUAL car...skip the rwd.

[Lash]

personally, I think GTO's are pieces of shit, whats the point of owning a mutt of a car ( cavalier, grand am grand prix ) mix...f that




:stare

Did you actually just say that?


:stare


lol

[nismodave]

:stare

Did you actually just say that?


:stare


lol


X2......Wow.

People are offering suggestions, as per your request and you are finding fault in all of them.

Maybe you should just analyze/decide yourself.

[Cryptic]

miata is a good choice, by what your describing...

only thing I can think of that is rear wheel, cheap on gas, can get a manual, good for auto-x, and over all is cheap to get.

[nismodave]

miata is a good choice, by what your describing...

only thing I can think of that is rear wheel, cheap on gas, can get a manual, good for auto-x, and over all is cheap to get.

Great minds think alike.:thumbsup

[1quickgtp]

miata is great dont get me wrong, ive auto xed my uncles ( turboed, suspension up the wazoo ) and it was a blast, but its just 2 small of a car for me, and no back seat

and I was stating my opinion about the GTO that is all, as ppl stated there opinions about modding a grand prix. everyone has different taste. also, I know 3 people that have gtos, 2 of them 04's and both rattle like tin cans already. GM has gone down hill on quality. an I already have an 02 z06, thats enough GM for me.

[Poncho]

[my-two-cents]
screw the miata, it looks too much like a RX7, RX8, 3,5,6 tribute, etc.

Solstice? but, oh shit, it looks like a gto, grand am, firebird, trans am, sunfire, sunbird, firenza, fiero, grand prix, g6, g8, bonneville, torrent, GTO, vibe, montana, transport, lemans, and catalina.

who would have thought a miata would look like a mazda, and a gto would look like a pontiac?

btw, nice grand am you have.

funny i'm part of the BIGGEST modern GTO forum, and I've yet to hear anyone complain about any rattles, or lack of quality, other than the mismanufactured '06 struts (supplier fault) and strut rub on some '04s.
In fact everyone always states that in vehicle quality nothing else in GMNA comes even close to the build quality, particularily the interior-wise (which would include rattles). Owners often have a f-body or y-body in the family and say the gtslow has a better, rattle free interior.

lol, your screenname is 1quickgtp, and you have a gtp in your sig, but have a z06? wtf, thats like me having a screenname of 90festiva and having it in my sig, "Torch Red '90 Festiva, blown out synchros, folgers exhaust, 50 shot" then be like oh wait i also have a z06. it sure would be in my sig, and i'd get my screenname changed.

yea, today we traded in the junk pony for a ford GT, and sold the cavalier, i mean grand am-prix, errr GTO for a Gallardo. Sorry i get those mixed up, strange, ones a forgettable 240hp family sedan w/ headlight lenses falling off and rear main leaks, and one is an imported 400hp World-Class GT Touring Car -- quite succesful in SCCA and Drift Racing. Hows that grand prix doing in Nascar nowadays?

See ya in your IS300, you'll be seeing mutt taillights well before I finally find traction in third
[/my-two-cents]

[rally_scort]

fd or fc rx7.Im sorry but the requirements you listed cant be met all in one.Either you get a miata but no backseats, an f-body and gas milage doesnt suit you,IS300 and its too much insurance.Maybe what you need is a 2003 Escort ZX2 and just put suspension mods on it or just get the s/r edition with tokico struts and eibach springs stock.Its also got a iceman cold air intake,short throw,borla exhaust,centerforce clutch,and upgraded ecu and its still stock so you could run in the stock class in auto/x.

[Flicktitty]

2001-2003 Audi S4. the TT V6 2.7L AWD 4door. insurance might kill though.
what about a 3 Series BMW? i believe you could find those in your range. a little more on the "boy racer" side is the SRT-4/SS Cobalt.

[Flicktitty]

fd or fc rx7.Im sorry but the requirements you listed cant be met all in one.Either you get a miata but no backseats, an f-body and gas milage doesnt suit you,IS300 and its too much insurance.Maybe what you need is a 2003 Escort ZX2 and just put suspension mods on it or just get the s/r edition with tokico struts and eibach springs stock.Its also got a iceman cold air intake,short throw,borla exhaust,centerforce clutch,and upgraded ecu and its still stock so you could run in the stock class in auto/x.

always trying to convert people! :thumbsup

[Brian98GTP]

I always liked the looks of the Acura 3.2 TL's. FWD though...

Older RX-7?

Or how about a Nissan 300zx TT.... only its a 2 seater. Same thing with an MR2 turbo.

C4 vettes can be had for pretty cheap now....


:confused

[Brian98GTP]

Damn it... double post.

[1quickgtp]

**** the miata, it looks too much like a RX7, RX8, 3,5,6 tribute, etc.

Solstice? but, oh shit, it looks like a gto, grand am, firebird, trans am, sunfire, sunbird, firenza, fiero, grand prix, g6, g8, bonneville, torrent, GTO, vibe, montana, transport, lemans, and catalina.

who would have thought a miata would look like a mazda, and a gto would look like a pontiac?

btw, nice grand am you have.

funny i'm part of the BIGGEST modern GTO forum, and I've yet to hear anyone complain about any rattles, or lack of quality, other than the mismanufactured '06 struts (supplier fault) and strut rub on some '04s.
In fact everyone always states that in vehicle quality nothing else in GMNA comes even close to the build quality, particularily the interior of the GTO, even the mighty Vette.

I like my grand am....haha, nice mutt you have :) ( not bashing you dan, jk'ing, so no need to get your undies in a bundle like you usually do ) all GM's look a like...face it.which is one reason why I dont want to be part of a peice of shit corporation that makes 75% of there cars shit! who wants to own a car for 2 years and have it rattle when you go over bumps? when you can own a toyota for instance an it can run strong for 10 yrs a still no rattles ( over exaggeration I know )


I just dont know... FOCK

[1quickgtp]

2001-2003 Audi S4. the TT V6 2.7L AWD 4door. insurance might kill though.
what about a 3 Series BMW? i believe you could find those in your range. a little more on the "boy racer" side is the SRT-4/SS Cobalt.

I like your thinking titty

S4, hmmm
bmw, maybe...
srt4...maybe
cobalt...no lol

[Flicktitty]

I like your thinking titty

S4, hmmm
bmw, maybe...
srt4...maybe
cobalt...no lol

figured i'd throw the SS cobalt on there so the GM guys don't bash me with there cam lol. if you are thinking of looking at S4's check out www.audizine.com theres alot of S4's and A4's both stock and modded ones for sale! :headbang oh and there is a Red STG1 SRT-4 forsale down here in Delavan.

[Lash]

A cobalt would actually make a pretty fun auto-x car. You do know that they handle like crazy...right?

[1quickgtp]

yea, I drove one. also it out slalomed the c6 but its just not my style, huge headlights, big wing, etc lol

[88Nightmare]

yea cuz ford is doin so much better.

I'm not taking sides here, just defending GM. Lets compare:

2007 Impala LTZ
http://www.topspeed.com/IMG/crop-405x340/impala_18_jpg.jpg

2007 Malibu
http://www.invoicedealers.com/images/modelimages/large/L06170MalibSS%5D%5D%5D00014552.jpg

not all that similar

2007 Grand Pricks
http://www.edmunds.com/pictures/VEHICLE/2007/Pontiac/20093681-396x249.jpg

2007 Bonneville
http://www.classycars.deena.ca/Pontiac/thumbnails/tn_pontiac2004bonnevillegxp.jpg

looks very similar

We can start comparing fords too, but I don't see the point?

I don't see why you would make a thread asking for peoples opinions, and then basically tell them to shove their opinion up their ass.

[Poncho]

Save for a G8? otherwise pop in need for speed underground 1,2, carbon or most wanted, forza motorsports, grand turismo, make a list of everything from say 1990+ thats rwd, and stick, hang the list on the wall, and throw a dart at it. that way it can be your "style"

edit --- i got it.


SVT Focus

great handler, stick, and you can instill fear with 180hp.

[88Nightmare]

the G8 is fixin to be badass!

[Lash]

and you can instill fear with 180hp.


:rolf :rolf :rolf
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:banana1:

[88Nightmare]

how about:
http://www.velocityjournal.com/images/stk/2005/sl2005n20focus1156998m.jpg
Saleen Focus with n2o

From Saleens website:

What an exciting addition to the latest Saleen offering! With distinctive European rally car styling matched with Saleen-proven performance, the Saleen N20 Focus the first of its kind direct from the manufacturer. A true “nitrous ready” solution is available for those who want more out of the modest Focus. And underneath this quiet exterior, lurks a 250hp sleeping giant, which only Saleen could make it happen.

[Lash]

Thats a far cry from $15k...lol.

[88Nightmare]

I just wanted to post up a car so he can tell me to shove my opinion up my ass like everyone else

[rally_scort]

or you could get a 1st gen lightning.They were fast in thier day.Just race people and tell em it was considered fast when it was produced. :goof

[Berettaspeed]

your looking for a car that will never exist.

[Flicktitty]

the G8 is fixin to be badass!

agreed:thumbsup

[88Nightmare]

an escort is always a good car to have. nothin like goin slow with no style :D

[Poncho]

or you could get a 1st gen lightning.They were fast in thier day.Just race people and tell em it was considered fast when it was produced. :goof

hey dude I did that w/ my 16 second trans am. "back in the day"

god that killed me when a '02 grand am GT and our old mariner blew the doors off the ta w/ that stock 305.

[Al]

2001-2003 Audi S4. the TT V6 2.7L AWD 4door. insurance might kill though.
what about a 3 Series BMW? i believe you could find those in your range. a little more on the "boy racer" side is the SRT-4/SS Cobalt.

My A4 is about half as much to insure when compared to my 92 integra. An S4 is cheaper than my integra too.

If you want power, economy, handeling, and reliability, you should look for an Accord V6.

[88Nightmare]

how about a Saturn Aura :goof :goof :rolf :rolf :banana1:

[Cryptic]

ohh yeah... older FC (2nd gen RX7s) are cheap as hell.

[Poncho]

how about a Saturn Aura :goof :goof :rolf :rolf :banana1:

i know this guy that has one.. seems pretty nice.

[Al]

how about:
http://www.velocityjournal.com/images/stk/2005/sl2005n20focus1156998m.jpg
Saleen Focus with n2o

From Saleens website:

FYI: a civic Si is faster...stock.

[1quickgtp]

I like the looks of the aura too.

im not telling you to shove your opinions up your asses.

im not just going to say no I dont want that, I rather say no and my reasoning behind it, good or bad. comprenda? :-p

integra...hmm...my buddy is selling his 93' rx7 tho. maybe he can drop the price a little bit for me.

I like the new civic SI's but there to much

as for focus's they do handle extremely well!!!!

[Flicktitty]

integra...hmm...my buddy is selling his 93' rx7 tho. maybe he can drop the price a little bit for me.



:wooo how much? :headbang

[1quickgtp]

hes asking 21 for it

[88Nightmare]

aura ftw

[Flicktitty]

:wooo :alcoholic nevermind
hes asking 21 for it

[88Nightmare]

FYI: a civic Si is faster...stock.

the brand new civic si stock is faster then the nitrous saleen focus eh? too bad I dont care about either car :goof

[1quickgtp]

yea, he has A LOT of money into it, has a fresh motor an new trans

[Korndogg]

how about a GTP?? That sounds about right for you. :thumbsup

[88Nightmare]

he wouldnt want a GTP, because that too looks a lot like a pontiac.

[Korndogg]

But what if it was 1quick one?

[Poncho]

aura ftw

you can shove your opinion up your ass. :rolf :rolf :rolf

[Korndogg]

how about a shelby dodge omni???

bet that thing would scoot.

[1quickgtp]

lol you guys!!! *sigh*

[Korndogg]

im serious about the omni lol....

[1quickgtp]

to old lol

[hrsp]

if i had 15k to buy a car and for some reason i didnt want an ls1 car...id go a bit old school with a 87gn...they can be had for 15k..but you said newer so i say.........

[TheBlueSupra]

umm. dont know if its been said and i doubt it has but. an SC300? 97-00 there anywhere from 7-15k and can be had in a 5 speed. comes either 6 cylinder non turbo supra motor or a sc400 is a V8. back seats rear wheel drive and i bet that will work for insurance. comes with moon roof as well. dont knowabout auto cross but im sure u can do it lol.

[Waver]

how about a shelby dodge omni???

bet that thing would scoot.


Good luck finding one....only 500 made, not too many of their owners want to give them up.....


How about this 03 cobra....if you really want the open top, get the vert.

[03CVLX]

How bout a Maxima SE.. They are a little tough to find with a stick shift but they do exist. Example 2001 Nissan Maxima (http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=214765424&dealer_id=171660&car_year=2001&search_type=used&num_records=&keywordsfyc=&make=NISSAN&transmission=Manual&model=MAX&distance=50&make2=&address=53220&only_price=1&default_sort=priceDESC&advanced=y&certified=&max_mileage=&max_price=15000&sort_type=priceDESC&min_price=&only_photo=1&body_code=0&end_year=2007&keywordsrep=&color=&start_year=1981&drive=&engine=&fuel=&doors=&style_flag=1&cardist=24)

This probably isn't the best one out there but it fits some of your criteria.

[70challenger452]

get a dakota with a 5.9, it's the only way to go:thumbsup

[Keyser Zosig]

Maybe look into a late 90's BMW 3 series. Excellent car, good handling, solid inline 6 drivetrain, some have the adjustable limited slip rear diff. If you can get one that you can turn the traction control off of, its got autocross potential. Spend around 7 to 12 g's, have a car you can put 100k on.

The 5 and 7 series are cool too, the 7 series get up and go but for the life of me I could not kick the rear end out on a 745 even when I pounded it hard into a turn, the traction control wont let it (even turned off) which goes against what I am usually trying to do.

Good cars though, and not a ricer ride import IMO, but something fun with class.

[jbiscuit]

Used Integra Type R maybe?

[jbiscuit]

or what about a used RS coupe? AWD, clean and low miles FTW!

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1165870

[Flight_740]

Gs300....

[jbiscuit]

...or this:

low mileage silver WRX sedan. AWD + turbo for $15,500

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1189885

[88Nightmare]

how about a Saturn Aura?

[Poncho]

still looks like a saturn though.


How about a GTO or a Mustang? :rolf

[88Nightmare]

its gettin tough now a days to find a vehicle made that doesnt look like its manufacturer. Fuggin mustangs are lookin like Fords, GTO's are lookin like Pontiacs, wtf is this world comin to?

[Poncho]

how about an Arctic Cat?

you can convert the skis to wheels in the summertime.

[88Nightmare]

somethin wrong with Polaris snowmobiles? or do those look too much like a Polaris?

[Flicktitty]

umm. dont know if its been said and i doubt it has but. an SC300? 97-00 there anywhere from 7-15k and can be had in a 5 speed. comes either 6 cylinder non turbo supra motor or a sc400 is a V8. back seats rear wheel drive and i bet that will work for insurance. comes with moon roof as well. dont knowabout auto cross but im sure u can do it lol.

i like this Idea as well........ hell i think i know of a SC400 in that price range?

[Flight_740]

financing might be an issue with that old of a car though.



i like this Idea as well........ hell i think i know of a SC400 in that price range?

[Flicktitty]

/\
Good point, i believe you could take out a Personal loan though couldn't you?

[Poncho]

t-bird super coupe?? kinda looks like a polaris though.

[1quickgtp]

I was thinking about an sc300 also!!! that white one at GLD from sound performane always made me bust a nut in my pants...

I was also thinking of a wrx and later on do a 2.5 swap....

hmmm

[H8RADE]

I would recommend a Z06...but it has no back seat...and you already have one...
:rolleyes:
Do you have a Skyline GT-R yet?
Something to think about.
Maybe a Z71 with a 7.0 R-block?

[SmokinRAM114]

what about a mini cooper S, 207hp go cart works for me! and has a back seat and handles good and farely easy to upgrade. buy a used one non S (02 up) for around $12k+ and $17k+ for an S model.

[RedGSX]

The SC300 - 2jzgte swap can be done, it's not too bad if you can find the parts. There is a guy that actually made a whole step-by-step manual. LINKY (http://www.ultimatelexustt.com/) Check it out, I almost did it.

[Flicktitty]

The SC300 - 2jzgte swap can be done, it's not too bad if you can find the parts. There is a guy that actually made a whole step-by-step manual. LINKY (http://www.ultimatelexustt.com/) Check it out, I almost did it.

yeah, Dan thebluesupra on here could get the parts to do it i'm sure.

[TheBlueSupra]

Yeah the sc you can get a loan easily but usually only a 3 year low. but the prices not being crazy your only paying maybe 300 a month. and if you go that route let me know I know i come off as a **** on here usualy but I have tons of experiance with SC's and supra's

[jbiscuit]

I was thinking about an sc300 also!!! that white one at GLD from sound performane always made me bust a nut in my pants...

I was also thinking of a wrx and later on do a 2.5 swap....

hmmm

the 2.0L is a perfectly good motor. They have proven to hold up quite well also. Depending on your driving style however, the trans is a different story. That silver WRX I posted is a GORGEOUS car...ultra low miles also. You can't go wrong. Drive a WRX in the snow just once and you'll be hooked!

[1quickgtp]

well im going to go look at a WRX an a STi tonight.

I called my insurance and the difference between the 2 is only 35 bux.

so wish me luck.

[1quickgtp]

well aw be damn

I just sent this guy an offer of 16k and he accepted, what should I do?

good deal?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/01-S4-6-SPD-BREMBO-BBK-KW-COILOVERS-BBS-CH-10K-IN-MODS_W0QQitemZ220080477274QQihZ012QQcategoryZ43902 QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

im REALLY liking s4's more and more, esp this one with the rims, suspension, brake combo

does anyone know anything about them?

let me know

thanx

[Flight_740]

Audi's scare me. They are cool but they scare me.

[hrsp]

that car looks NICE...road trip

[1quickgtp]

Audi's scare me. They are cool but they scare me.

can you go more in depth please? if its service work..I work on ALL my cars no matter what or how hard it is!!! so that doesnt bother me

just if anyone knows ANYTHING good or BAD, please say something now...

road trip MIGHT be this weekend!!1 I just called him!

im done with full out drag cars, im going to be scca, elkhart, and SOME drag, with nice street balance / comfort!!!

and I think this has it all, twin turbo, manual, awd, luxury, comfort, PLUS it has SOME mods done ( brakes, wheels, suspension im loving as I already said lol )

[Flight_740]

It's the number one car on my lot to have electrical issues. They even stump our mechanic and he is pretty good.

[1quickgtp]

spectacular......

well should I still go for the jump......hmmm

[Flight_740]

spectacular......

well should I still go for the jump......hmmm


Me, personally..............no I wouldnt.

But if you want a nice 02 A4, I have one:rolf

[jbiscuit]

don't these cars have issues with the twin turbo set-up also? I know they have a lot of gremlins

[1quickgtp]

Me, personally..............no I wouldnt.

But if you want a nice 02 A4, I have one:rolf

the one with the electrical problems :rolf

as for the "gremlins" im reading up on the audi forums, then had problems from 2000 ( first year ) to 2001.5.

2002-04 was fine, from what im reading.

hmmm 460whp s4? for only 18k http://www.audiforums.com/m_427241/tm.htm

[Prince Valiant]

Personally, I don't know why you haven't gotten a wrx or impreza yet...inexpensive, somewhat reliable, inexpensive to mod, good handling, easy to work on car. About the only downsides to it in my book are they look like cross-eyed frogs and you have to talk to 16y/o's who think your car is da bomb.

[Flight_740]

the one with the electrical problems :rolf

as for the "gremlins" im reading up on the audi forums, then had problems from 2000 ( first year ) to 2001.5.

2002-04 was fine, from what im reading.

hmmm 460whp s4? for only 18k http://www.audiforums.com/m_427241/tm.htm

Then what the heck are you looking at 00-01's?

[jbiscuit]

.....About the only downsides to it in my book are they look like cross-eyed frogs and you have to talk to 16y/o's who think your car is da bomb.


the second part of this statement couldn't be farther from the truth. You are thinking of the Honda frat

[1quickgtp]

I dont know why im looking at 00-01's im in the process of "weighing my options"

[FANAT1C]

Since your looking at '00-'01 S4's, have you seen this one? 2001 S4 (http://milwaukee.craigslist.org/car/278354796.html)
It doesn't have any mods but why is it so much less (only $4600) than the other's that your looking at? :confused Could be a good buy. Possible right?

[nismodave]

That cant be right.......4600????

[1quickgtp]

Since your looking at '00-'01 S4's, have you seen this one? 2001 S4 (http://milwaukee.craigslist.org/car/278354796.html)
It doesn't have any mods but why is it so much less (only $4600) than the other's that your looking at? :confused Could be a good buy. Possible right?

it was flagged, im sure they meant 14600 or somthing

[FANAT1C]

Sorry it got flagged. Thought it could have been the deal of the century.
So are you still considering 00 & 01's ?