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DynoTom
11-16-2006, 09:44 AM
I don't know if this a good idea....Mandatory engine diapers??????

These have a 1 year expiration cost around $800.....



http://www.nhra.com/content/news.asp?articleid=17364&zoneid=8


If GLD is checking for this in 07 I can honestly say I may just run my car to 10.00 ET's under 135 MPH.....I'm NOT going to have a $800 engine diaper on my car that is only good for one year of racing......My car was made to be 80 % street driven so that new diaper rule makes it too expensive to run the car under 10.00 at the track .....

What do you guys think about this??????

juicedimpss
11-16-2006, 09:50 AM
damn,thats crazy

scottie K
11-16-2006, 09:59 AM
and yea they will be lookn for them .... rumor has it and trans sheild....or blankets

DynoTom
11-16-2006, 10:00 AM
Pro Street "no Diaper" .....can not go quicker than 10.00 and 135 MPH?????


Unless some place makes a cheaper diaper set up or one that techs longer I will have a car that will only go as close to 10 Ohs at 134 as possible........


Oh well, I will let this "pan out" and see what happens.....I guess I will not have to add nitrous to my combo now as I was planning to.....

DynoTom
11-16-2006, 10:08 AM
I kind of feel bad for the guys who were planning on going MUCH faster than I was shooting for.....


I can drive a my set up to 10 oh's pretty easy as the car was only going mid / low 9s "full out" N/A ......But , you gotta feel for the "crazy guys " here like Scotty K, Boss, Mark and Bobbie as their cars are faster and really would be no fun slowed to only 10 ohs......Those guys don't have much of a choice to do the diaper dealy........

juicedimpss
11-16-2006, 10:10 AM
im willing to bet there will be some inexpensive versions coming out.

scottie K
11-16-2006, 10:12 AM
yep many up dates for us so that are some of the stuff we have to do this coming yr....

I think they will be looking hard for blankets this next yr ... along with antifreez in motors ..

I heard if you have NOS or any power adder on the car with antifreez you wont be able to run...

they will only be letting stock lookn cars with out power adders with antifreez
i cant remember what the tech guy said on how much time they spent this yr on clean ups on oil/ antifreez ,, he said it averaged out about to 4-5 hrs a nite on clean ups

DynoTom
11-16-2006, 10:24 AM
I can understand that the new rules do make it safer to run it's just that unless those diapers get cheaper to buy or will tech longer I really think a lot of guys will not be able to race.....The diaper rule could add $800 to each season of racing.....If you don't race a lot those could be some expensive runs you are making.....

SMOKDU
11-16-2006, 10:36 AM
here is a cheaper verson for uys older racers:thumbsup

http://www.magicmedical.com/depsupabprot.html

DynoTom
11-16-2006, 10:38 AM
here is a cheaper verson for uys older racers:thumbsup

http://www.magicmedical.com/depsupabprot.html


For how fast some of the small tire "crazy guys" cars are here that kind of diaper I WOULD need !!!!

DynoTom
11-16-2006, 10:41 AM
I guess this new rule really does not matter for the really fast cars that race a lot....The cars that might be affected the most are the mid to high 9 second street cars that might only race a few times times a year...

DynoTom
11-16-2006, 10:43 AM
I waiting to see what Boss and Bobbie think about this.....:alcoholic

SMOKDU
11-16-2006, 10:46 AM
if they did come out with a cheaper version it would make it safer. and it would keep the track cleaner f there was a break, i think it is a good idea. but why the every year thing? im sure they will last longer than that..

it is like seat belts every two years. mine are 4 yrs old and im sure they will work the same as 1 yr old ones.. its a good way to make money i think

scottie K
11-16-2006, 10:48 AM
hahah

dont laugh your gona need one too........

wheelsofsteel
11-16-2006, 11:06 AM
I assume that the diaper is going to be just like seat belts where you don't have to throw them out when they expire. You would just need to send them to the manufacture to have them re-sewed after they expire.

TuffEnuff
11-16-2006, 11:12 AM
Attn: everybody...

You only need an engine diaper *IF* "all Comp competitors" applys to YOU.

unless you're racing super gas, super comp, pro stock, ect.....you dont have to worry.

DynoTom
11-16-2006, 11:15 AM
Attn: everybody...

You only need an engine diaper *IF* "all Comp competitors" applys to YOU.

unless you're racing super gas, super comp, pro stock, ect.....you dont have to worry.


COOL ! I thought they were talking about the ET/ MPH for any car!


Thanks !!!!:thumbsup

scottie K
11-16-2006, 11:15 AM
thank you fluffy:D

juicedimpss
11-16-2006, 11:18 AM
sweet,now i can go back to planning for my 7 sec ride.:rolf

scottie K
11-16-2006, 11:35 AM
^^^ me tree

SMOKDU
11-16-2006, 12:14 PM
^^^ me tree


me frour:rolf

BAD LS1
11-16-2006, 12:22 PM
Well, Crawlin can wave the LS1/GM flag ALL to him self now. No way in hell am i going through another year of drag racing and having to spend more in saftey equipment than i did on some of the mods to make it run the times it did!

"Once upon a time drag racer show car"/street car will be the ONLY thing mine will be doing from now on.

I know its in your own best intrest to have these saftey rules... but this just screws the "hobby racer's" pooch like no other.

BOSS LX
11-16-2006, 01:47 PM
I assume everyone here(Mark), knows that engine diapers are for lower end issue's. It doesn’t matter anyway, thanks Tuff.

So what is the mph rule for a chute?

wheelsofsteel
11-16-2006, 01:50 PM
So what is the mph rule for a chute?

I believe it is still 150+ mph.

Crawlin
11-16-2006, 01:51 PM
Tommy, Tuff just said that isn't required for the hobbyist racer. Only for the guys who are running classes

But it'll be me and Mike and one other guy who's up here from TX at MSOE racing the LS1

DynoTom
11-16-2006, 02:10 PM
Tuff just said that isn't required for the hobbyist racer. Only for the guys who are running classes




That is really a big difference......I'm glad they are not making the "once in a while race guys" use diapers.....:thumbsup

FourEyedFord
11-16-2006, 02:22 PM
I might wear one anyways...:stare

BAD LS1
11-16-2006, 02:22 PM
Yeah i didnt ready that part till after i posted... oops haha

nismodave
11-16-2006, 04:05 PM
Can anyone confirm the no antifreeze for any type of power adder cars?

Crawlin
11-16-2006, 04:21 PM
i think it would make sense. those are the ones really stepping up on the pressure inside the combustion chambers. but would be interested to here

MT98Z
11-16-2006, 04:43 PM
Dave not sure if it's no antifreeze for power adder cars as it is no antifreeze allowed for a certain et and faster,gota check rules.

TURTLE
11-16-2006, 06:48 PM
that would suck for the "import" guys... or the FWD guys.... that's be one wierd a$$ setup to try and get it crammed in the engine bay...

FourEyedFord
11-17-2006, 11:22 PM
Attn: everybody...

You only need an engine diaper *IF* "all Comp competitors" applys to YOU.

unless you're racing super gas, super comp, pro stock, ect.....you dont have to worry.

Doesn't any E.T. vehicles mean us, though? So in '08 we will need one then?

Oil-retention Device

Beginning Jan. 1, 2007, all Comp competitors will be required to have an oil-retention device meeting either SFI Spec 7.1 or 7.2. For Jan. 1, 2008, the same rule will apply for Super Gas, Super Comp, and any E.T. vehicle running 9.99 or quicker or 135 mph or faster. NHRA is developing an implementation strategy for an oil-retention device meeting the SFI specification for the reminder of the NHRA Lucas categories.

DynoTom
11-17-2006, 11:39 PM
Bobbie, I found this on another site.


SO it is clear.... I spoke to DAVE MAHON od Division one. Lots of people should know who he is. EVERY CAR running 9.99 or quicker MUST have an engine diaper.... They are not going to be the $450.00 dollar or higher ones.... You can get them for like $180 now....

Reason: it will stop the oil downs for cars that break. It will stop the BUCKY HESS JR. type crash at The Grove.... He blew the motor and spun in his oil and crucshed the back of the car....

Think about it. It is a safety thing. Do you want to crash if you blow a motor, in YOUR OWN OIL???? How about the oil downs that no one sees for a leaker???? I do not want to run 200mph and slide in some jerk off's oil and wreck my car....

Us T/S guys have been running them for a while already. To be honest, it is a good thing.... It saved a buddy of mine last year when he split his block in half with NO2 and the rods came out the sides.... The car is fine because, 8quarts were in the diaper and not on the tires and track.....

FourEyedFord
11-17-2006, 11:53 PM
It sucks, but I guess if they are only $180 thats not so bad.

DynoTom
11-18-2006, 12:05 AM
It sucks, but I guess if they are only $180 thats not so bad.

I agree, $180 is not bad compared to $800 .......


I would bet you will even see more companys making them now that there will be more demand for them.....

DynoTom
11-18-2006, 12:09 AM
Here is one for $159....


http://www.gochampion.com/Engine%20Diaper%20Main.htm



My oil pan on my 521 BBF is a Moroso Stage II BOX pan.....it will be easy to install a diaper on the pan......