panning shots?

[Cleveland Dave]

i tried the other day and i just cant seem to figure it out.
what do i need to do with my camera to get it right.
what mode should i be in what settings do i need to play with....etc..

i have a canon 350d (digital rebel XT)

[Cryptic]

post an example of what you have... and the exif...
Otherwise there's a thread where me and J went at it that explains it :goof

[Cleveland Dave]

ok thanks found it...

http://www.brewcitymuscle.com/forum/showthread.php?t=15244&highlight=panning

[Cleveland Dave]

ok so i looked at that thread and looked at the link...so to achieve a slower shutter speed what do i do ?

should i be in what mode? av, tv, P, manual?
should i just set the shutter to bulb? and just hold it in then release when i feel appropriate?

and im not sure on what the shutter speeds mean 1/200 1/8 etc..what is that in the viewfinder display i know its the number on the left...and how do i adjust it?

[jbiscuit]

umm what? You have never played around with the manual modes?

[Cleveland Dave]

no not really i tried messing around with it but i couldnt figure it out.

i know how to adjust it at night but i was having trouble doing it during the daytime.

[jbiscuit]

you need to get a book to learn how to operate an SLR. Or better yet, start reading your Canon manual!

[Cleveland Dave]

fine thanks for the wonderful advice

[jbiscuit]

well dave come on man. You need to learn how to operate your camera outside of fully automatic before you start asking about panning shots. Plan around with the camera and learn what a "shutter speed" is and what the camera's aperture actually does. Then come back asking how to shoot certain shots

[Cleveland Dave]

ive read the manual i have read all the online tutorials....i was just having trouble getting it to work. i couldnt seem to get the shutter to be slow enough...probably just because i was in the wrong mode or something. i know how most of the manual stuff works at night time. ill just play around with it some more i was just asking for some tips.

[johnny--2k]

OK, the way i figured it out was to have someone running, follow them with the camera, then take a picture. Then just adjust the shutter speed with the dial by the shutter button and play until it is where you want. I found on my Rebel XT in daylight, put it into AV mode and on the display, turn the dial to a number lower, like 8 - 16. Try that and see how it works. Practice on the side of the road taking pics of cars going by.


Hope that helps. I know how frustrating it can be to try and get the right settings.

[Cleveland Dave]

well i just went out to the street for some practice. i tried tv mode with an f-stop of somewhere between 18-29
iso 100
shutter between 15 and 50 im uploading them now to see how they look i know from the camera quite a few are pretty blurry but some are better then others. im gonna see how these look upload them and try again a little bit later

[GRNDNL]

you need to get a book to learn how to operate an SLR. Or better yet, start reading your Canon manual!

Hay...y dont u try and be nice to da guy, some uf us had to go to publick shcools and we dont reed so well.......:flipoff2:

I'm thinkin he needs a tripod, know anybody that has one for sale?.......:shades

[Cleveland Dave]

test shots...

friend in the park this was yesterday and i couldnt figure out how to get slower shutter speeds so they werent really working out that well i was in mode P and i think that was my problem and i wasnt adjusting something right.

http://www.midwestautosports.com/sized/img_1627.jpg

shutter 1/125
f 7.1
iso 100

so today i tried the tv mode. iso 100 focusing mode set to ai servo. adjusted shutter to between 15 - 50.

http://www.midwestautosports.com/sized/Picture%20011.jpg
1/30 s at f/14

http://www.midwestautosports.com/sized/Picture%20023.jpg
1/30 s at f/16

http://www.midwestautosports.com/sized/Picture%20027.jpg
1/30 s at f/18

http://www.midwestautosports.com/sized/Picture%20031.jpg
1/40 s at f/16

http://www.midwestautosports.com/sized/Picture%20034.jpg
1/50 s at f/11

http://www.midwestautosports.com/sized/Picture%20061.jpg
1/25 s at f/20

http://www.midwestautosports.com/sized/Picture%20062.jpg
1/25 s at f/20

[Cleveland Dave]

so how can i get better at this besides more practice?

why is only some of the car in focus? how do i determine which shutter speed is best? and how much should i follow the car with the camera while taking the pic?

[Yooformula]

you need to get a book to learn how to operate an SLR. Or better yet, start reading your Canon manual!

gosh what a dikc!;)

[johnny--2k]

follow the car as long as possible. Keep the car in view and hold down the shutter button half way, it will constantly focus as the image moves and subsequently blur the background.

After some time you should end up with something like this....


These were taken while driving....that's a pain in the ass, let me tell ya...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v477/johnny--2k/Me%20Mike%20Tony/IMG_3835.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v477/johnny--2k/Me%20Mike%20Tony/IMG_3837.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v477/johnny--2k/Me%20Mike%20Tony/IMG_3853.jpg


These were taken from the side of the road.... and a couple from the passenger seat, and one out of the sun roof..... :banana :durr :banana1:


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v477/johnny--2k/Brice%20on%20Bike/IMG_3912.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v477/johnny--2k/Brice%20on%20Bike/IMG_3909.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v477/johnny--2k/Brice%20on%20Bike/IMG_3898.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v477/johnny--2k/Brice%20on%20Bike/IMG_3896.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v477/johnny--2k/Brice%20on%20Bike/IMG_3894.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v477/johnny--2k/Brice%20on%20Bike/IMG_3915Edit.jpg

[946speedz]

eeeek that guys gonna scrape his damn knees off in those jeans, nice pics though

[johnny--2k]

haha....he's usually wearing knee pucks, this was kinda impromput, if he's doing something like that on the street.....he actually races CCS and one other one I cant remember. Awesome rider!

Thanks!

[SMS 1]

Dave I wont rail on you like J but to some extent he is right. Take some time to learn basics and the rest will all fall into place when trying to understand the more advanced shooting methods. That being said here are a few things . . .

1. As I think you are figureing out a long shutter would be something like 1/8 (which is one eighth of a second duration) and fast would be 1/800. To blur motion you need a long shutter time, a short shutter will freeze action.

2. The easiest way to do this in a program mode is what you figured out. Put it in Tv (Shutter Priority Mode) and set for instance 1/25. Try all different speeds but this can be limited in daylight if the sun is very bright.

3. Learn to be smooth with movements and follow through. Click the shutter open just slightly before the subject comes past yuo at a 90 degree angle and follow through. If all is timed well and your actions were smooth the subject will be right where you last saw it in the viewfinder when the mirror comes back down.

4. Parts are sharper than others partly due to focal length and shutter speed. A very long shutter speed and non smooth camera movements can result in not only horizontal tracking speed differences but also vertical camera shake. ~What I believe you are talking about though is the fact that the center of the car is in focus and the front and back are out? The simplest way to put it is that you subject is moving in a straight line and you line of sight is panning on a curved axis. As you open the shutter the subject is further away than it is when it passes 90 degrees to the film plane and then moves away again, in other words you are fighting perspective due to distances. The "sharp" area is the part of the subject that had the least amount of tracking speed differential and perspective deviation during the exposure. A key to remember is the longer the zoom lens the less deviation you have. My 12mm lens has lots of perspective deviation during panning while a 300mm will keep most of a car sharp over quite some distance. Distance from your subject will also help or exagerate the effect.

This really is just scratching the surface but should help if you are still looking for help on the topic. I'm sure if I got something wrong or missed something big the other guys will fill in the holes here.

Here is one of mine from the SBC250 last year. Don't have the exif here with me at work but I think it was ISO100, 1/30sec, f18, Canon 10D, Sigma 300mm

http://www.steffenphoto.com/Gallery/MS/SBCflash/images/busch4.jpg

[TURTLE]

holy crap! that's a great post!

i just wish i had a camera i could play around with...

[jbiscuit]

Dave I wont rail on you like J but to some extent he is right. [/IMG]


ha ha ha ha......haters....so many haters. Ben, I just think its foolish to ask how to take an advanced photo like a panning shot when Madison Dave doesn't even know what or how to control shutter speeds. He needs to play around in manual mode and get a better grasp of the camera and how SLRs work in general. He is putting the cart before the horse if you ask me:thumbsup

[GRAMPS SS]

it's stuff like this is why i shoot manual camers and with film....j/k
i would love to help out...but digital is a different animal then what i shoot with to a point.....but it's all in shutter speed and lens opening and following the subject

[Cleveland Dave]

ha ha ha ha......haters....so many haters. Ben, I just think its foolish to ask how to take an advanced photo like a panning shot when Madison Dave doesn't even know what or how to control shutter speeds. He needs to play around in manual mode and get a better grasp of the camera and how SLRs work in general. He is putting the cart before the horse if you ask me:thumbsup

i mis read what u said before...i dont use full manual that often is what i meant.
i have read and re-read the manuals a lot of online tutorials and several forums and websites on photography and checked out several books from the library.

the problem was when i first went out is i didnt realize i was just changing the f-stops and it was very bright out and i couldnt get the shutter to go lower not thinking on my part. so when i shot the cars on the road i used shutter priorty and played around with that.

i was mainly looking for tips on how its done and what i should be doing with my particular camera.