Fast Jeep Cherokees

[Irish]

Is there such a thing besides the new SRT8?

[theavenger333]

with enough money........ even old 4cyl Fox Bodies can be fast!

i dunno, they came with the 5.9, not a bad motor.....

[Grim_Reeper7.0]

You can make them fast......The new hemi cherokees are pretty quick.......

[BLUTO]

We just got an 04 Overland Grand cherokee. It has a H.O. 4.7 and awd. As fast as a new hemi jeep but not the srt jeep. Beats a suprising amount of cars. Maybe a 14.9???

[Slow Joe]

Ummm I doubt the 4.7L HO V8 Grand Runs a 14.9... I.M.O. I could be wrong though... I do know they have some up and go though... If I remember right the '05/'06 still comes with the 4.7L, and the Hemi is the bigger motor...

[UnderPSI]

Supercharge it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[BLUTO]

1/4 mile
Name----------------ET----------mph-----------Rig
Jacobs---------------11.99--------113------------MJ 401 (b c e e/f g h i i/m n)
quikZJ-5.9------------12.75-------108.74---------98 5.9 ZJ (A B C E E/F H I I/M N P T/B U W/R)
98jeep360------------13.3---------103!!!-----------98 5.9 ZK (A E I/M P T/C T/B)
FUZZ401--------------13.49-------96.11----------78 CJ-7 401amc (C E/F G I/M S/K T/C I)
saleen4971-----------13.52--------100.55--------98 5.9 ZJ (A B C E H I I/M P T/B W/R)
digibus----------------13.77-------101.35---------99 WJ (A B C E E/F H I N T/B W/R)
jerodr1---------------13.9---------97------------98 5.9 ZJ (A E H I P T/B W/R)
Dino Savva-----------14.30--------95.4----------92 4.6 XJ (A B C E E/F H I P S T/B W/R)
Outlaw torn 5.9-------14.34---------93.4---------98 5.9 ZJ (A E H T/C U)
robertk232-----------14.4---------92.6----------98 5.9ZJ (A E H I P T/B W/R)
GPPowers-------------14.42-------95.3----------98 5.9ZJ (A E T/B W H P)
silver bullit------------14.46--------91-----------98 5.9 ZJ (A E H I)
qwik59----------------14.5---------92.13--------98 5.9 ZJ (A E H T/B)
saleen4971-----------14.5---------93------------94 ZJ (A E I P W/R)
PtownTSI------------14.62--------93.2----------98 5.9 ZJ (a h t/b t/c)
5point9limited--------14.687-------91.72---------98 5.9 ZJ (a e p)
PtownTSI------------14.87--------90.1----------98 5.9 ZJ (W/R)
Mozencrath-----------14.8--------90.0-----------98 5.9 ZJ (a p u)
GPPowers-------------14.93-------88.96----------02 WJ Overland (W/R)
Purdueranger---------15.1---------89.5----------94 ZJ (A E H I P T/B W/R)
UntameD-------------15.1---------90------------97 ZJ (A E H P T/B)
Jonathon 90 M3-------15.32--------88-----------96 XJ
gobycat--------------15.4---------86-----------01 WJ 4.7 (A E)
notfast---------------15.42--------88.0---------97 ZJ (A E)
gobycat--------------15.5---------87.9---------94 ZJ 5.2 (A E P)
ZackXJ---------------16.0---------84.0---------97 XJ (A E W/R)
notfast---------------16.2---------84.0----------97 ZJ
Dino Savva-----------16.31--------84.9----------92 4.0 XJ stock
gobycat--------------16.4---------81------------89 MJ 4.0 (A, E)
gobycat--------------17.4---------76------------98 ZJ 4.0 (stock)
Puma297-------------19.3---------61-------------99 WJ

mods

A=CAI
B=heads
C=cam(s)
E=exhaust
E/F=electric fan
G=gears
H=headers
I=ignition
I/M=intake manifold
N=nitrous
P=PCM
P/A=power adder (turbo or supercharger)
S=stroker kit
S/K=shift kit
T/B=throttle body
T/C=torque converter
U=Underdrive pullies
W/R=weight reduction



This is from the Jeepsunlimited forum. ZJ=94-98 Grand Cherokee body style
WJ=99-04 Grand Cherokee

GPPowers-------------14.93-------88.96----------02 WJ Overland (W/R)
gobycat--------------15.4---------86-----------01 WJ 4.7 (A E)

The overland has a forged hi-compression motor, with heads,intake,cams,tuning, etc all adding up to 30 extra hp over the standard 4.7.

digibus----------------13.77-------101.35---------99 WJ (A B C E E/F H I N ...This was w/bolt ons & spray.

http://wjjeeps.com/engine.htm tells everything you ever want to know about Jeeps.


15.2 / 88.0 mph (Motorweek, '02 Overland) I only have a shift kit & K&N drop-in,,,With a little luck I might get a 14.9.

[Prince Valiant]

My dad's non-HO went 15.3@88ish....so I don't doubt a 14.9 is possible out of the HO engine.

One of the old "Sport Trucks" of the late 80's, early 90's was a Cherokee based comanche called the "Eliminator"...equipped with the 4.0 liter I6 & 5 speed and decent gears it was as fast as most "muscle trucks" of the time...like 15.8's. There is a guy who does bracket racing at GLD who last I saw was low 13's with his comanche.

There's also quite a bit you could do, with one...like take a 4.0, put in an old 4.2 crank and rods (with the 4.0 pistons) and come out with 4.6ish liters...mill and port the heads, throw some headers on, get a hotter camshaft and put some decent gears in those things, and you'd have a fun little truck. Appearently, the Hi-po ECU from mopar do pretty well adapting to the larger displacement if you add larger injectors.

[Irish]

you guys are the best! thanks!

[ripped2keclipse]

i heard those new srt8 moved

[SLONOMA]

I've seen a few 1998 grand cherokee limited, which had the 5.9L 360, move pretty damn good for being a jeep

[Slow Joe]

Yeah, the 5.9L Limited responds well to mods from what I've heard... That would be a fun Jeep to modify...

[Berettaspeed]

i saw a black SRT-8 yesterday on wisconsin going down 37th. that was one bad ass sounding cherokee

[lasttimearound]

the 4.7 is a stout engine, superchips has a programmer that works for it, as long as its 2003 and older, the newer ecu's compensate for the program and you have to reflash it every 500 miles or so. also gibson headers are available. the ho is just cams and an intake manifold that can be had for ~500 bucks so dont be discouraged by a non ho 4.7. my old 4.7 grand cherokee with just the HO cams and intake manifold with an intake and headers ran a 14.7. i have the same engine in my ram and am upgrading to 4.56 gears air ram air intake, gibson headers and superchips and ho cams and intake manifold, a guy with a similar intake put his 2002 ram quad cab at 14.5 his was 2wd though, not 4wd like mine

[BLUTO]

The H.O. version of the 4.7 is WAY more than 'just cams & intake' - follow the link

[lasttimearound]

yeah, i know its more than that, but those are the basic 'bolt ons' that make a difference from the motor is what i was implying, sorry.

[theavenger333]

great, a cherokee noob

[Slow Joe]

Jeeps are the ****... Too bad gas is expensive otherwise I'd have one again...

[lasttimearound]

great, a cherokee noob

everyone has to start somwhere/time

[H8RADE]

The Cherokee (XJ) stopped being made in 2001.
I had a quick(er) 1999 model, but it had built axles, 4.88 gearing, and lots of crap strapped to the inline-6 tractor motor. :stare
The Grand Cherokee started in 1993.
The 5.9 Limited was only made in 1998 and the weak point is the Dana 44 rear, which has an aluminum center section that is known to flex, crack, and secure a boat in the harbor.
The 4.7 HO is known as the 'baby Hemi', and is the bridge from the old tech to the new.
Not a bad motor, but a 4.7 HO Grand with stock gearing and an intake will not get out of the 15s.
HTH

[H8RADE]

NOOB here.

[BAD LS1]

4.7's rip, they are better than the 360 IMO. I know a guy that had a 2002 4.7, 5-speed. 3.92 anti-spin, intake and exhaust... dakota that ran mid 14s on street tires, and 14.3s on old ass circle track slicks.

So one would assume the jeeps could be made to haul ass

[Slow Joe]

The Cherokee (XJ) stopped being made in 2001.
I had a quick(er) 1999 model, but it had built axles, 4.88 gearing, and lots of crap strapped to the inline-6 tractor motor. :stare
The Grand Cherokee started in 1993.
The 5.9 Limited was only made in 1998 and the weak point is the Dana 44 rear, which has an aluminum center section that is known to flex, crack, and secure a boat in the harbor.
The 4.7 HO is known as the 'baby Hemi', and is the bridge from the old tech to the new.
Not a bad motor, but a 4.7 HO Grand with stock gearing and an intake will not get out of the 15s.
HTH

This man's got it down pat..

Now for '93-'97 Grand Cherokees You had two available motors and two different 4-Wheel Drive Systems, the Motors were the 4.0L I6 and the 5.2L V8, 4-Wheel drive systems were Selec-Trac and Quadra-Trac, and down south there was a 2-Wheel Drive option. With the 4.0L I6 you also could get a 5-Speed manual transmission (rare), otherwise it was normally backed by an automatic transmission.

'98 You normally had the 4.0L I6 or the 5.2L V8, but in the Limited you could also get the 5.9L. They still carried the same 4-Wheel Drive Systems

'99-'04 Available motors were the 4.7L V8, 4.7L V8 HO, and 4.0L I6.. And for 4-Wheel drive Systems I believe you had Selec-Trac, Quadra-Trac II, and Quadra-Drive with 2WD as an option down south.

I could be wrong in some of this, but this is just off the top of my head... :shades

[DRK]

There was a 360 grand cherokee in the early 90's too. TSI I believe

[Slow Joe]

Quoted From Edmunds.com About the 1997 & 1998 Model Year Grand Cherokee:

"After all that happened in 1996, 1997 saw but a handful of changes. Chief among them was the availability of the V8 engine for two-wheel-drive Grand Cherokees and the six-cylinder engine's qualification as a transitional low-emission vehicle (TLEV) in California. The antilock braking system was refined for smoother operation, the base stereo was upgraded, carpet quality was improved and some new colors, such as Deep Amethyst Pearl and Bright Platinum, debuted.

Later in the year, a sporty TSi model debuted, featuring 16-inch alloy wheels, 225/70R16 tires, leather seating and a premium stereo. The TSi brought the number of Grand Chero-kee models offered back to three: Laredo, TSi and Limited.

1998 would see the first generation Grand Cherokee go out with a bang. A big bang, as a new 5.9 Limited debuted. The number referred to the engine size in liters, meaning this model housed a powerful 5.9-liter V8 underhood. The big V8 thumped out 245 horse-power and 345 foot-pounds of torque, enough to catapult this SUV from zero to 60 mph in only 7.3 seconds, making it the quickest SUV available that year. Helping out in the performance department was a low restriction exhaust (with a chrome tip) and a 3.73 rear axle ratio. A few other features separated the 5.9 from the standard Limited model: hood louvers, a mesh grille insert and unique five-spoke alloy wheels. The occupants of a 5.9 Limited were treated to even more luxury than the already plush Limited, with softer leather trim and a more powerful (180-watt) stereo."

It had either the 4.0L I6 or the 5.2L V8, the 5.9L Was only available in 1998.

Also I forgot to add that in the earlier years there was a "Base" or "SE" Grand Cherokee, and it would come with the CommandTrac 4-Wheel Drive System... These were the ones that were equipped with the 5-Speed Manual Transmissions...

[H8RADE]

There was a 360 grand cherokee in the early 90's too. TSI I believe

You are incorrect.
The only 360 ever put in a ZJ was in 1998.
As for anything with 'quadra' before it...garbage.
Full time 4wd is something my Aunt Fran would purchase.
:shades

[Slow Joe]

Current Generation

Careful evolution marked the revamped 1999 Grand Cherokee. The latest body style is a slightly softened but still handsome version of the previous model. Although the wheelbase remains the same, overall length is up by 4 inches and height increases a few inches, as well, resulting in more cargo and passenger room. And Jeep wisely relocated the spare from the cargo area to under the rear floor, freeing up luggage space.

A new overhead-cam 4.7-liter V8 with 230 horsepower and 295 pound-feet of torque (later models got up to 265 ponies and 325 lb-ft from a High Output version of this engine) replaces the old pushrod 5.2-liter V8, and the sturdy 4.0-liter inline six was refined for more power (10 additional horses) and smoother operation. Automatic transmissions are paired with both engines, but the V8's tranny has another gear "between" second and third that improves passing performance at higher speeds. Joining Selec-Trac and Quadra-Trac is Quadra-Drive, which has the ability to send all the power to a single wheel if the other three have no grip.

The nicely equipped Laredo and luxurious Limited trim levels are still offered, Sport and Special Edition models appeared briefly and currently the top o' the heap is the Overland. The Overland has the 4.7 H.O. V8 as well as a wealth of standard features such as front and side-curtain airbags, an Infinity sound system with 10-disc changer, heated/power front seats, Quadra-Drive, side step rails, power sunroof, wood/ leather steering wheel and 17-inch alloys wheels.



Now that makes me wonder...
4.7L HO = 265 HP and 325 ft-lbs
5.9L = 245 HP and 345 ft-lbs

Could make for an interesting match between the two...

[Slow Joe]

You are incorrect.
The only 360 ever put in a ZJ was in 1998.
As for anything with 'quadra' before it...garbage.
Full time 4wd is something my Aunt Fran would purchase.
:shades


You could only get the 5.9L Limited with Full Time 4WD... Unless it was a down south model where I think there was available 2wd... And I also agreed with you above on the rest of that statement...

[JC70SS]

The SRT8 may be fast, but get one of those POS chrysler trannys to hold up:rolf

I'd take the ML55 AMG. I believe the new one is under 5.0 sec 0-60.

[Slow Joe]

Weird enough, I never had a single problem with my Grand Cherokee transmission (5.2L V8 and about 200k on the clock when I sold it) and trust me... It went through the pases... :rolf

[H8RADE]

Weird enough, I never had a single problem with my Grand Cherokee transmission (5.2L V8 and about 200k on the clock when I sold it) and trust me... It went through the pases... :rolf

The Aisin-Warner AW-4 in the XJs and earlier ZJs is a great tranny, and the Supra version can handle 600 hp or so.

[70challenger]

d take the 4.7 ho over the 5.9. form what ive seen in the dakotas the regular 4.7s are faster.

[Slow Joe]

See I'm an old skool Chrysler motor fan so I'd be all over the 5.9... Plus I like the old body Grand Cherokees more... Plus... 5.9L Supercharged Grand Cherokee = :drool:

[70challenger]

yah i know i'm an old school chrysler guy too. i got the 5.2 in my ram 1500 4x4. i want to do a 408 or a procharger or something but cash is low right now.

[Slow Joe]

yah i know i'm an old school chrysler guy too. i got the 5.2 in my ram 1500 4x4. i want to do a 408 or a procharger or something but cash is low right now.

I know that feeling, becasue if it weren't, I'd still have my '95 Grand Cherokee, it would of gotten a 5.9L Swap (had a 5.2) a built trans, transfer case, and s/c... with some axle work... it'd of been a fun Jeep :thumbsup At least that's what I wanted to do, knowing what normally happens I'd of prolly just drove it... Too bad I don't have a money tree... :rolf

[H8RADE]

I know that feeling, becasue if it weren't, I'd still have my '95 Grand Cherokee, it would of gotten a 5.9L Swap (had a 5.2) a built trans, transfer case, and s/c... with some axle work... it'd of been a fun Jeep :thumbsup At least that's what I wanted to do, knowing what normally happens I'd of prolly just drove it... Too bad I don't have a money tree... :rolf

I don't believe the Grand Cherokee ever came with a 4 cylinder.
So much for that...
:rolf

[Slow Joe]

I don't believe the Grand Cherokee ever came with a 4 cylinder.
So much for that...
:rolf


Ha, ha, funny... :rolleyes: The 2.5L 4-Cyl in my Wrangler was bad enough

[H8RADE]

Ha, ha, funny... :rolleyes: The 2.5L 4-Cyl in my Wrangler was bad enough

Swap it into a 5.9 and spend the balance on Sssttteeeeeedddaaa suspension and have it adapted.
;)

[Slow Joe]

Swap it into a 5.9 and spend the balance on Sssttteeeeeedddaaa suspension and have it adapted.
;)


Naw dude, Wranlgers weren't made to handle turns... Those ****ers were made for mud and rocks!! :thumbsup :thumbsup

[Prince Valiant]

[
The SRT8 may be fast, but get one of those POS chrysler trannys to hold upCare to expound on what it's specific problem is Joe? :durr

The Aisin-Warner AW-4 in the XJs and earlier ZJs is a great tranny, and the Supra version can handle 600 hp or so.The Asin tranny was only in use for 1/2 the year in the Grand Cherokee's, and then only with the 4.0. I've got a 94 with the a-500 chrysler 4 speed. Can't say enough good things about my chrysler tranny...lived a long life prior to it's rebuild at 235,000 miles with plenty of moderate loads towed during that time. It could have kept going for I don't know how long, but I didn't really want to find out (It was starting to shift poorly, that was it). Always kept the fluids fresh, and just as importantly, the correct fluids in the tranny.

That's probably the biggest issue with the chrysler tranny's imo, is that it's extremely fluid sensitive. The older 3 speeds were far less so (904/998/999 & 727's), but the 4 speeds could fail within days of recieving the wrong fluids (especially the FWD trannies...they could fail literally with only minutes of operation).

[jeep srt8]

i heard those new srt8 moved
mine moves real good!

[Waver]

I have always liked the origional cherokees, the commanche, and the scrambler, however try to find one of those jeep trucks, is a pain in the ass.
Now I havent driven the baby hemi, however when I worked for ewald, I did get to drive some of the 5.9 grands.....once to finish off a diff (they were replacing it because of noise, so the tech and I took it out in the parking lot and beat the hell out of it) awesome pull for a suv....that is all I got to say

[jeep srt8]

I have always liked the origional cherokees, the commanche, and the scrambler, however try to find one of those jeep trucks, is a pain in the ass.
Now I havent driven the baby hemi, however when I worked for ewald, I did get to drive some of the 5.9 grands.....once to finish off a diff (they were replacing it because of noise, so the tech and I took it out in the parking lot and beat the hell out of it) awesome pull for a suv....that is all I got to say
that's good to know that you beat the hell out of customers' cars, cause that's exactly what i'm looking for when i bring in my $45k+ jeep. i pray i don't ever get you for a service tech.

[theavenger333]

well then go cry about it? on the plus side, nice job bringing back a super old thread!

[Yooformula]

I saw an older couple tonight driving a red Srt 8 super slow too. What a shame!

[jeep srt8]

I saw an older couple tonight driving a red Srt 8 super slow too. What a shame!
true that is a shame!:(

[jeep srt8]

well then go cry about it? on the plus side, nice job bringing back a super old thread!
i'm not crying by far buddy; i think it is pretty safe to say that almost everyone on this forum cares a great deal about their investment. i'm sure you would be highly dissatisfied if you were to be informed that some "beat the shit" out of your own personal vehicle.

when someone trusts you enogh to leave there car with you i would hope that you would respect them enough to treat the vehicle as if it were yours, or at least treat it like you had to pay for its repairs.

even if it was an old thread, you set it out there for everyone to respond to; man up and stick by your word.

[theavenger333]

WHY DO YOU KEEP BRINGING BACK THREADS 10+ DAYS LATER. this thread sucks anyway

[Irish]

WHY DO YOU KEEP BRINGING BACK THREADS 10+ DAYS LATER. this thread sucks anyway
you suck, I just wanted to know.....damn. Why do you got to be **** about it.
Sheesh!

[theavenger333]

YOU SUCK IRISH! ha! you're basic thread doesn't suck, it became sucky